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Originally posted by Classic NES
Honestly, the biggest threat might be his "continuous improvement" ability rather than his time-skip. He might get some ideas from thawne and improve as they fight. The problem is DB doesn't have the same concepts of a time stream and whatnot like DC. It's more like a series of streams that cannot change. So, Thawne wouldn't be able to for example kill Goku in the past because it would have no affect on the current timeline as per DB rules.

Edit: Also, aging has no effect on Saiyains powers. They naturally age slowly and if you de-age them or turn them into kids their power level would remain unchanged.

Hit is no where near Thawne's level when it comes to Time Manipulation.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hit is no where near Thawne's level when it comes to Time Manipulation.

He doesn't have to be, there's no timestream to mess around with in DBZ. He can freeze time and skip ahead a few seconds that's good enough. Time travel has no advantage in DBZ. Zamas with the ring of time showed this.

Thawne can age you to the point your body decomposes into dust. How is Goku surviving that?

So if we establish that a Flash/Superman is faster then most Goku/Vegeta, that opens them up to defeat by asphyxiation.

Wind tunnels and such, or the way Superman beat Hat.

Thawne's temporal abilities far outclass Hit's in the grand scheme of things.

I'd just be more curious to see if someone like Thawne could instantly see through Hit's time whammies, or if they'd still be effective.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thawne can age you to the point your body decomposes into dust. How is Goku surviving that?

By punching him square in the jaw. Pretty sure in all those scans thawne needed physical contact to initiate it anyway.

Originally posted by Galan007
Thawne's temporal abilities far outclass Hit's in the grand scheme of things.

I'd just be more curious to see if someone like Thawne could instantly see through Hit's time whammies, or if they'd still be effective.

I think he'd see through it. Hit's time abilities aren't that impressive.

@Galan, yeah like How is Hit supposedly freezing time against Thawne who is FAR ahead of him when it comes to Time Manipulation? Hit even had trouble dealing with Goku when he used Time Skip iirc

Thawne can Reverse time. Even IF we were to ignore the fact that Speed Force/Negative Speed Force can enter and exit dimensions and universes by vibrating, Thawne can Reverse time to before he ever entered said dimension.

Originally posted by Classic NES
By punching him square in the jaw. Pretty sure in all those scans thawne needed physical contact to initiate it anyway.

I think he'd see through it. Hit's time abilities aren't that impressive.

Thawne can phase through Hit.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil [/b]
Thawne can Reverse time. Even IF we were to ignore the fact that Speed Force/Negative Speed Force can enter and exit dimensions and universes by vibrating, Thawne can Reverse time to before he ever entered said dimension. [/B]

Chronal manipulation isn't really that effective against Z fighters by Super. Goku forced through hits Time skip with sheer power alone and Time Travel doesn't work in DB because it just creates an alternate timeline. Goku could just use GodBind or Telekinesis to stop Thawnes movements from him and kill from there.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thawne can phase through Hit.

Even if he did it wouldn't hurt him much.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Chronal manipulation isn't really that effective against Z fighters by Super. Goku forced through hits Time skip with sheer power alone and Time Travel doesn't work in DB because it just creates an alternate timeline. Goku could just use GodBind or Telekinesis to stop Thawnes movements from him and kill from there.

Even if he did it wouldn't hurt him much.

When did Goku show telekinesis?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
When did Goku show telekinesis?

Not exactly teke, but kiaiho is a common technique that can emulate teke to an extent.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
When did Goku show telekinesis?

It's a pretty common technique in the Z world. But, even if you don't want to take it he can just do God Bind.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hit even had trouble dealing with Goku when he used Time Skip iirc

I don't see Thawne beating Hit's time-skip quite like that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not exactly teke, but kiaiho is a common technique that can emulate teke to an extent.

Yeah, but I meant TK like in lifting stuff, not Kiai which is more of a projection of energy (usually vocally).

Originally posted by Classic NES
Chronal manipulation isn't really that effective against Z fighters by Super. Goku forced through hits Time skip with sheer power alone and Time Travel doesn't work in DB because it just creates an alternate timeline. Goku could just use GodBind or Telekinesis to stop Thawnes movements from him and kill from there.

Even if he did it wouldn't hurt him much.

Time skip isn't the same as somebody reversing time though.
Hit needed to make contact with Jiren in order to use Time Cage. Thawne aint gonna sit around and lit that happen. Especially when he is faster than Hit, can phase through him, AND stop time.

Hits time skip is 3 seconds, wasn't it Galan?
Thawne could move faster before he even remotely gets that off, He got blitzed by Dypso like what lmao

@Classic

When has Goku ever used TK though is what i'm curoius about

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Time skip isn't the same as somebody reversing time though.
Hit needed to make contact with Jiren in order to use Time Cage. Thawne aint gonna sit around and lit that happen. Especially when he is faster than Hit, can phase through him, AND stop time.

Goku can hold him in place with GB or TK. While Hit goes into town. They could also scatter the team by powering up lol.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@Classic

When has Goku ever used TK though is what i'm curoius about

Goku hasn't used TK outside of God Bind which is different. He has used Telepathy to read Krillin's mind when he first landed on Namek though and in a filler, he used TK when he was in the hospital.

Originally, in DB there were 3 main fighting schools: Turtle, Crane, and Demon. Certain techniques were particular to the different schools. For example, Bukujutsu or levitation is a famous technique of the Crane school, and Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha never used it. But, eventually, they did. The Crane school is also famous for its psychic abilities such as TK and TP which all their members have used. There's really nothing stopping Goku from using these techniques since various characters have and are quite a basic technique.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hits time skip is 3 seconds, wasn't it Galan?
Thawne could move faster before he even remotely gets that off, He got blitzed by Dypso like what lmao

There was a lot going on in the Dyspo/Hit fight, tbf. But initially, yes, Dyspo was able to counter it with his FTL combat speed.