!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Chi in DC is compared to Magic it's something Lex speculated that could affect Superman.
Thawne doesn't utilize chi in that fashion, He uses negative speed force energy which Goku isn't perceiving imo

This is what I've been telling them. You can't compare a chi user KOing Superman to anything in Dragon Ball, because chi does not work the same way. Its treated as magic in comics, as you said, while Dragon Ball makes a clear distinction between ki and magic ala Baba and Babidi.

Originally posted by cdtm
This is what I've been telling them. You can't compare a chi user KOing Superman to anything in Dragon Ball, because chi does not work the same way. Its treated as magic in comics, as you said, while Dragon Ball makes a clear distinction between ki and magic ala Baba and Babidi.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Chi in DC is compared to Magic it's something Lex speculated that could affect Superman.
Thawne doesn't utilize chi in that fashion, He uses negative speed force energy which Goku isn't perceiving imo

Doesn't matter if he doesn't use it. He has it all life does in DBZ. It doesn't matter if they can harness it or not.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Doesn't matter if he doesn't use it. He has it all life does in DBZ. It doesn't matter if they can harness it or not.

Sure. But there's plenty of proof they need a strong ki signature. Otherwise, surpressing it wouldn't work.

Unless Thawne naturally outputs more chi then a farmer, he should be barely perceptible to a strong fighter like Hit, who wouldn't even register a threat.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Doesn't matter if he doesn't use it. He has it all life does in DBZ. It doesn't matter if they can harness it or not.

We learn in issue 18 of new superman after Chinese superman becomes the master like I-ching when I ching passes down the balance of yin and yang which is connected to qi. It's magic:

There's no evidence they need a strong signature. Absolute bs lies as usual.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
We learn in issue 18 of new superman after Chinese superman becomes the master like I-ching when I ching passes down the balance of yin and yang which is connected to qi. It's magic:

Ah, I get what you're saying now.

Comic book chi is different from Dragon Ball chi. Therefore, Hit can no more detect Superman then he could God Ki.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. I never thought of it like that.

Originally posted by Classic NES
There's no evidence they need a strong signature. Absolute bs lies as usual.

Goku needed a strong ki signature in Revenge of Freeza.

Originally posted by cdtm
Ah, I get what you're saying now.

Comic book chi is different from Dragon Ball chi. Therefore, Hit can no more detect Superman then he could God Ki.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. I never thought of it like that.

Yup

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
We learn in issue 18 of new superman after Chinese superman becomes the master like I-ching when I ching passes down the balance of yin and yang which is connected to qi. It's magic:

Qi is used in magic in Daoism. Maoshan practitioners use chi in spells. Hell, one user of the crane school used her magic to enhance roshi fighting power i.e. chi.

Originally posted by cdtm
Goku needed a strong ki signature in Revenge of Freeza.

Cool story bro. Only time goku has trouble sensing chi is when he's using IT and the signature is too far to lock on.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Qi is used in magic in Daoism. Maoshan practitioners use chi in spells. Hell, one user of the crane school used her magic to enhance roshi fighting power i.e. chi.

Dragon Ball chi is not magic.

Period.

There is no debating this. DC comic Chi and Dragon Ball chi work on entirely different principles, comic chi will be undetectable to Manga chi users.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Cool story bro. Only time goku has trouble sensing chi is when he's using IT and the signature is too far to lock on.

You said there was no proof they needed a strong ki signature. I gave an example of needing a strong ki signature.

You are wrong, again.

Originally posted by cdtm
Dragon Ball chi is not magic.

Period.

You have no clue what you're talking about as usual.

Originally posted by cdtm
You said there was no proof they needed a strong ki signature. I gave an example of needing a strong ki signature.

You are wrong, again.

No example was given you just listed a movie.

Originally posted by Classic NES
No example was given you just listed a movie.

I cited the scene from the movie. It's not my fault you don't know Dragon Ball.

Originally posted by Classic NES
You have no clue what you're talking about as usual.

Is chi magic in Dragon Ball. Yes or no?

Originally posted by cdtm
I cited the scene from the movie. It's not my fault you don't know Dragon Ball.

Is chi magic in Dragon Ball. Yes or no?

You didn't cite any scene and qi is a word with alot of connotations used to describe unseen and intangible forces. You're way out of your depth and are just general wrong and butthurt about everything.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Qi is used in magic in Daoism. Maoshan practitioners use chi in spells. Hell, one user of the crane school used her magic to enhance roshi fighting power i.e. chi.

WHICH makes me question. as it seems like you're saying Chi/qi is different than ki if Roshi who has Ki didn't enhance his own power

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
WHICH makes me question. as it seems like you're saying Chi/qi is different than ki if Roshi who has Ki didn't enhance his own power

The word ki is a sino Japanese corruption of the Chinese word Qi/chi. It's the samething because the idea is a Chinese import to Japan which itself comes from Daoism.

Originally posted by Classic NES
You didn't cite any scene and qi is a word with alot of connotations used to describe unseen and intangible forces. You're way out of your depth and are just general wrong and butthurt about everything.

We're not discussing the philosophical history of chi. We are debating how it is used in Dragon Ball and comic books.

Either they are written the same. Or they are not.

If they are not, you can not assume anyone in Dragon Ball can sense a completely different life force.

The same way God Ki is not treated like normal ki.