!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sorry, if you want to compare comics to manga and manga to comics, then we ABSOLUTELY get to use a level playing field. This is a comic forum. Bring manga in here, it gets judged equally.

What Goku did, a powerless human in Marvel/DC could do. That's shown by canon comics, I did not make these comics up, I didn't draw them, I didn't write the text.

Nope, not how this work. Dragonball has one writer whereas comics is fluctuated with writers and power levels and people not knowing physics. You can not compare the two. Sorry!!!

Originally posted by carver9
It escaped because it went faster than light - the only way to escape a black hole (if you have the durability the withstand the gravitational pull as well).

I just don't think it's a real black hole because later Goku and Vegeta go right back to training that vest on beerus planet, and they're not as heavy as a darn star. It's impossible to believe.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, not how this work. Dragonball has one writer whereas comics is fluctuated with writers and power levels and people not knowing physics. You can not compare the two. Sorry!!!

So you're saying this entire thread is pointless? OK 😂

Edit:😂 too at your statement - you act like Toriyama knows physics

Originally posted by dvampire
I just don't think it's a real black hole because later Goku and Vegeta go right back to training that vest on beerus planet, and they're not as heavy as a darn star. It's impossible to believe.

When? They didn't train after the tourney unless you're talking about the manga?

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, not how this work. Dragonball has one writer whereas comics is fluctuated with writers and power levels and people not knowing physics. You can not compare the two. Sorry!!!

Btw:

Originally posted by -Pr-
Unless otherwise stated, it's a general rule that things tend to work along the same lines, assuming they're not identical. It's like, a basic rule of fiction.

Carver is wrong. Again.

Black holes are black holes, unless the comic explicilty said those were different in some way. Sorry Carv. Marvel and DC (powerless) humans can do what Goku did.

Originally posted by carver9
When? They didn't train after the tourney unless you're talking about the manga?

They still use training vest provided by whis Its a long way off from being like a black hole. Even when goku was inside that attack, he compared it to bulma's gravity machine, which shouldn't be all that impressive when up against a black hole.

Originally posted by dvampire
They still use training vest provided by whis Its a long way off from being like a black hole. Even when goku was inside that attack, he compared it to bulma's gravity machine, which shouldn't be all that impressive when up against a black hole.

How much does Whis weights weigh (also, you're talking about BEFORE the toruney). I want you to provide proof of the weight.

Also, Goku said the weight of the black hole is greater than Bulmas gravity machine. How does that statement discredit the weight of the black hole attack?

Originally posted by carver9
How much does Whis weights weigh (also, you're talking about BEFORE the toruney). I want you to provide proof of the weight.

Also, Goku said the weight of the black hole is greater than Bulmas gravity machine. How does that statement discredit the weight of the black hole attack?

Dark, you can't compare Manga consistencies with comics consistency and use those low showing consistencies in comics to down play Manga consistency when Mangas usually deal with one writer. You're trying to low ball. Nothing in PR statement mentions anything about accepting low balling for both universes.

What has Goku ever lifted before bring under a black hole? Bulma's gravity machine they use to train doesn't equate to a black hole. It's a very big comparison, one Goku hasn't reached. Those vest should be heavy enough to sink through the planet if Goku really is capable of taking a black hole. No ground should hold them.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark, you can't compare Manga consistencies with comics consistency and use those low showing consistencies in comics to down play Manga consistency when Mangas usually deal with one writer. You're trying to low ball. Nothing in PR statement mentions anything about accepting low balling for both universes.

No, his statement clearly states that unless otherwise specified, things are consistent.

Black holes are black holes. If YOU want to prove that the black hole Corsair or those random humans went through was somehow weaker, be my guest.

Otherwise, it's as good as Goku's feat. No lowballiing.

Originally posted by dvampire
What has Goku ever lifted before bring under a black hole? Bulma's gravity machine they use to train doesn't equate to a black hole. It's a very big comparison, one Goku hasn't reached. Those vest should be heavy enough to sink through the planet if Goku really is capable of taking a black hole. No ground should hold them.

I'm not even going to bring up Goku destroying a Universe during his fight with Beerus, but I will mention it destroying a sun and a couple of planets. Also, Vegeta punch on the Frieza wanna-be shook the dragonball that was the size of a planet. Then, Goku withstood the weight of a black hole that was crushing the ring that was made out of the most durable substance in the DragonBall universe.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, his statement clearly states that unless otherwise specified, things are consistent.

Black holes are black holes. If YOU want to prove that the black hole Corsair or those random humans went through was somehow weaker, be my guest.

Otherwise, it's as good as Goku's feat. No lowballiing.

It is lowballing, lmmfao. Can a human survive a black hole, yes or no. If either of us, me or you was thrown in a black hole, can we survive?

Originally posted by carver9
It is lowballing, lmmfao. Can a human survive a black hole, yes or no. If either of us, me or you was thrown in a black hole, can we survive?

We're not comic humans though?

Hawkeye is a human. Can YOU do what he does? Cyclops is a human. Can YOU take a punch that smashes you through several buildings? Green Arrow, Robin, hell even C -listers like Blue Beetle and Penguin can do things you and I can never do. And that's not even bringing Batman or Nightwing etc into the discussion. Hell, Kingpin is a human lmao, you gonna replicate his feats???

As to answer your question, yes, COMIC BOOK HUMANS CAN SURVIVE BLACK HOLES. I have shown this in canon, unaltered scans, no context needed.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not even going to bring up Goku destroying a Universe during his fight with Beerus, but I will mention it destroying a sun and a couple of planets. Also, Vegeta punch on the Frieza wanna-be shook the dragonball that was the size of a planet. Then, Goku withstood the weight of a black hole that was crushing the ring that was made out of the most durable substance in the DragonBall universe.

If it was an actual black hole, the ground would be sucked in it too. It's a baseless claim by a character that never been inside of a blackjhole.

Originally posted by dvampire
If it was an actual black hole, the ground would be sucked in it too. It's a baseless claim by a character that never been inside of a blackjhole.

You're just in denial. Period. So we cleared up Goku strength. That he was able to move in the weight of a Black Hole and destroy suns with punches. Both are>>>>>>>>> a moon. Now let's talk about speed. Goku fight against Hit. Goku was moving so fast that he was going into the future.

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Lol, I can't think of a speedster outside of Flash dipping into the speed force, moving anywhere near as fast as this. He moved so fast he was going into the future. What excuses are you going to make now?

You can't even hear inside of a blakhole. Goku them are talking having a conversation, it's not a real blackhole.

Originally posted by dvampire
You can't even hear inside of a blakhole. Goku them are talking having a conversation, it's not a real blackhole.

It was stated on panel and by the writers to be a black hole. Move on. So, we've covered Goku having above planetary strength. Heck, he showed universal strength in the beginning of Super. We've covered Goku being so fast that he can travel into the future. I'm guessing you want to talk about durability?

It's not a real black hole. A black hole has heat and cold temperatures, both reaching absolute zero and heat greater than a sun.

Originally posted by carver9
It was stated on panel and by the writers to be a black hole. Move on. So, we've covered Goku having above planetary strength. Heck, he showed universal strength in the beginning of Super. We've covered Goku being so fast that he can travel into the future. I'm guessing you want to talk about durability?

Comic writers have stated that to be black holes.

Curious how you ignore that .....