Originally posted by CatL18Huh?
Isn't Ki manipulation feat different from striking feat?
I don't think DBS characters can destroy universe with punche and kick.
You originally said that no one in DBS has destroyed a planet with a punch/kick. I showed you Champa doing so casually:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=17276737#post17276737
Now you're asking for DBS characters who have destroyed entire universes with a punch/kick? Lol, no... That obviously hasn't happened(and I don't think anyone in comics has kicked a universe out of existence either.)
However, it was stated that the shockwaves generated from the [physical] fight between n00b-SSG Goku and Beerus would have destroyed the universe(inc. it's adjacent realms):
https://i.imgur.com/qRq2GkC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L3EUwz0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kA9JbMM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/b6Ei4ep.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/t5GcaHm.jpg
Which was reiterated in the manga:
https://i.imgur.com/ZXxJNn6.png
*And that was before they created the "super dense energy ball", which was also capable of destroying the universe.
So any way you slice it, the battle between n00b-SSG Goku and Beerus was universal... And Jiren is many, many orders of magnitude beyond the level they were fighting at.
@Galan
If Beerus and Goku were able to destroy the universe, then why was Beerus so scared of Zeno's power to destroy the universe?
https://postimg.cc/1nTmpffc
And if Jiren is that far beyond Beerus and Goku, then what level would you put him at? Multiversal or something?
Originally posted by LordGodBecause of the ease in which Zen-Oh can do it. Zen-Oh can effortlessly nullify a universe(or even the entire DB multiverse) "on a simple whim" just by closing his fist, ffs. Powerful as Beerus is, he certainly cannot universe-bust like that.
@GalanIf Beerus and Goku were able to destroy the universe, then why was Beerus so scared of Zeno's power to destroy the universe?
https://postimg.cc/1nTmpffcAnd if Jiren is that far beyond Beerus and Goku, then what level would you put him at? Multiversal or something?
Jiren is so powerful that, even while suppressing a huge percentage of his power, he was still easily pummeling the shit out of SSB+KKx20 Goku. I'm not saying he was "multiversal", but I will say that the blast he used against UI Goku here, would have logically been able to eradicate the universe+.
Originally posted by Galan007
Because of the ease in which Zen-Oh can do it. Zen-Oh can effortlessly nullify a universe(or even the entire DB multiverse) "on a simple whim" just by closing his fist, ffs. Powerful as Beerus is, he certainly cannot universe-bust like that.Jiren is so powerful that, even while suppressing a huge percentage of his power, he was still easily pummeling the shit out of SSB+KKx20 Goku. I'm not saying he was "multiversal", but I will say that the blast he used against UI Goku here, would have logically been able to eradicate the universe+.
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Originally posted by Philosophía
Honestly, without getting into Marvel/DC for a while -- you guys wanna try and help me gauge the speed in Dragon Ball, at least up to and including the Saiyan Saga?Stilt, Galan, Abhi?
I think you guys need to come to a consensus of who wins between yamcha and Superman
Im sure Stilt has something to say
Originally posted by Galan007
No. I'm one of the 'crazies' who still thinks that Beerus is pretty much the top dog. Barring Angels(obvs), the only un-fused character who is possibly above him is Broly(and *maybe* current Moro, depending on how powerful you think he actually is.) Imho.What I'm saying is that if you capped Beerus at the level he was suppressing himself down to when he matched n00b-SSG Goku, and then had Jiren fight them, Jiren would stomp the shit out of them without effort.
Stilt gets it. 👆
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Originally posted by LordGod
@GalanIf Beerus and Goku were able to destroy the universe, then why was Beerus so scared of Zeno's power to destroy the universe?
https://postimg.cc/1nTmpffcAnd if Jiren is that far beyond Beerus and Goku, then what level would you put him at? Multiversal or something?
Jiren not even using fraction of his power shakes the entire world of void. The world of Void is limitless. Galan disagrees but Jiren is above Beerus, period.
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