Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And a Creed broke his talons/claws on the grey Hulk's hide. Wolverine noticed how difficult the Green Scar was to cut, he easily breaks Guido's hold, and bends Colossus' arms. I'm saying that James in that scene is portrayed the way a team strong guy would be portrayed. Not what effect his punch had, because the Green Scar made them all look impotent in that book.
Warpath is definitely stronger, faster, and more durable than Creed.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When? You're sure you're not making this shit up? 馃檪
I said a Creed, which was Ultimate Sabes broke his claws on Ultimate Grey Hulk's hide, who then asks him if he scratched him.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're clearly off-your-meds if you believe what you're saying.
James is more durable, he also moves far faster as he can fly, and he can certainly lift more which in my book makes him stronger. And finally, James has a decent HF.
Originally posted by Stoic
I said a Creed, which was Ultimate Sabes broke his claws on Ultimate Grey Hulk's hide, who then asks him if he scratched him.
Again.
Are you sure you're not making shit up?
Because it certainly seems like you are.
Originally posted by Stoic
James is more durable, he also moves far faster as he can fly, and he can certainly lift more which in my book makes him stronger. And finally, James has a decent HF.
He is not more durable, especially if we factor in Creed's adamantium skeleton and healing factor.
Flight makes him travelling faster, not reacting. He can't hold a candle to Creed in melee.
The only thing he has going for him is strength... and what feats he has with that strength, huh?
Creed knocked Classic Rogue out. What has Warpath done? Aside from struggling with a bear or a sewer alligator?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Again.Are you sure you're not making shit up?
Because it certainly seems like you are.
He is not more durable, especially if we factor in Creed's adamantium skeleton and healing factor.
Flight makes him travelling faster, not reacting. He can't hold a candle to Creed in melee.
The only thing he has going for him is strength... and what feats he has with that strength, huh?
Creed knocked Classic Rogue out. What has Warpath done? Aside from struggling with a bear or a sewer alligator?
Creed has an adamantium skeleton these days? I thought that they buried that idea? I'm talking about penetration resistance when saying that James is more durable.
Flight does make him faster I did mention travel speed. James isn't a slouch when it comes to fighting skills. Not saying that you're painting that picture, just hoping that you aren't.
Warpath has far greater lifting feats. How well would Creed do against classic Juggernaut? In the latest X-Force run, James was definitely portrayed to be the teams strong guy. Creed is, or was on that team.
We can all go down the lowball tube like when Sinister grabbed Creed up by the back of his neck like he was restraining a house cat.
Originally posted by Stoic
Creed has an adamantium skeleton these days? I thought that they buried that idea? I'm talking about penetration resistance when saying that James is more durable.
Yes, he does.
Pak gave it back to him with no explanation, same as he gave a healing factor to Proudstar. I already said it on the previous page.
Since you don't read comics, at least try paying some attention?
Originally posted by Stoic
Flight does make him faster I did mention travel speed. James isn't a slouch when it comes to fighting skills. Not saying that you're painting that picture, just hoping that you aren't.
He only has flight under some writers. He flies now, sure, but he's still a melee fighter.
He's much younger than Sabretooth, doesn't have his training or experience.
Originally posted by Stoic
Warpath has far greater lifting feats. How well would Creed do against classic Juggernaut? In the latest X-Force run, James was definitely portrayed to be the teams strong guy. Creed is, or was on that team.
Lifting feats don't win fights.
His performance against Juggernaut is an outlier.
How well would Proudstar perform against Wolverine?
Oh, wait. We already know. Wolverine was beating his ass without even using his claws.
Originally posted by Stoic
We can all go down the lowball tube like when Sinister grabbed Creed up by the back of his neck like he was restraining a house cat.
Mr. Sinister is a team-wrecker who beat Strong Guy unconscious with a pimp slap:
And he's not in this thread.
It's not lowballing. Warpath simply has no feats to beat Creed in a forum fight.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Didnt weapox x give Creed his bones and claws back and increase his hf?
Correct.
They also boosted his physical attributes, as noted by Wolverine.
Thing is, his metal bones were quickly forgotten by other writers --- post M-Day Tooth was always written as adamantiumless, before Pak came and wrote him as having adamantium again in 2017.
^ Not only Sinister is a powerhouse, Creed was before his first upgrade ever, too. And he's had many.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm talking about penetration resistance when saying that James is more durable.
So you're talking about nothing.
Creed's organic claws have pierced Archangel's TO wings.
Warpath gets cut all the time and it'll be no different here. Being sometimes-bulletproof is not enough to withstand Sabretooth's claws, it never has been.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
^ Not only Sinister is a powerhouse, Creed was before his first upgrade ever, too. And he's had many.So you're talking about nothing.
Creed's organic claws have pierced Archangel's TO wings.
Warpath gets cut all the time and it'll be no different here. Being sometimes-bulletproof is not enough to withstand Sabretooth's claws, it never has been.
lol yeah, I remember us arguing about it too.
Yeah, nearly everyone is forgetting Pak's upgrades to Warpath. Specifically, his new healing factor. In direct comparisons, including against Weapon H, it was on par with Creed and the gang.
We're supposed to use current versions, so that's who we're dealing with. Warpath also has supersonic flight and super strength. In a battle of attrition, he will put out of a lot of damage. Physically, he's around Monet, but with a healing factor instead of her durability and a bit slower than she is I guess.
Warpath and Sabes did have a brief scuffle recently, if anyone wants to analyze.
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....you'll have to excuse the artwork though. The series overall had pretty solid art, but Ricardo Lopez-Ortiz handled 2 of the issues, and well...I'm glad we only had to put up with him for 2 issues because wtf. I'm sure he's a nice guy but w....t.....f......
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Wow that's so crazy chorona virus hulk is just as strong as wwh. Good to know, now im off to hero chat to spread the good news of the glorious green leader.
Getting up with a smile after 8 punches is surely a better showing that getting discredited as a threat and one-shotted.
Stoic wanted to use his WWH showing as an actual feat for Jimmy, when it is anything but.
Then you have Proudstar getting knocked out by Emma or Cap...