Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It was mentioned multiple times in that Weapon X series, actually.But now that Pak's run has ended? Safe to say it'll get forgotten again.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Technically, yes, that does occur later than Dark's image, but they are from the same Weapon H arc, within a couple issues of each other. Maybe it got mentioned again afterwards, but it was certainly gone by the time of the Azazel and Magik incidents. Marvel had a hard on for inverted Sabes, and he appeared in quite a few titles so maybe it was addressed somewhere. I certainly don't remember it though. I think Marvel just pulled a Warpath and went "Okay, things are like this now. Sabes has enemies and stuff so use your imagination."
Or at least particular writers did. I don't know if Marvel editorial actually gives a **** about it tbh. Maybe there's just too material out nowadays to micromanage each pocket of continuity.
Maybe his skeleton just isn't interconnected like Wolverine's.
Lady Deathstrike has the same problem, among others.
He's had some really good cutting feats during the Axis and post-Axis "era"...
Cutting "Wonder Rogue", piercing OR's carbonadium armor and super-durable flesh, slicing through Ultron Jane Thor's torso (severing her arm in the process), embedding his claws in Chulk's leg.
Of course, Victor's organic claws have great feats, too. But the ones I listed above are quite uber, you need to admit.
---------"Compare how well both did against Classic Juggernaut for starters."-----------
What for?
Wapath knocked Juggs off a building top and they traded some blows, the narrative insisted Warpath with his team backing him had no chance of winning and he claimed to be exhausted not long after they got started.
Idk that Creed ever fought classic Juggs, though he did fight the version that was chumin' with the X-Men for some undisclosed amount of time with a team of Brotherhood backing him up. Aside from a couple panels of Creed tearing at the back of his helmet, we don't know how he fared, though he didn't seem to be exhausted while running into half the X-Men the next day.
So other than Warpath not dying, what was supposed to be impressive here?
-------"Again, compare how well the Thing did against the Juggernaut, to how well Warpath"-------
And again what for? Thing stepped to Creed after Human Torch blasted him and Creed still practically doubled Thing over with a one-shot when Mystique ordered him to stop playing around. How does bringing up Thing help Warpath's case here?... (Other than the fact that it doesn't.)
-----------"And a Creed broke his talons/claws on the grey Hulk's hide."----------
You claim you were referencing Ultimates verse, but the only time I'm aware of anything like this happening was between Exiles Creed and Maestro... Which.... If we're cool bringing up Exiles Creeds then great let's not forget an Exiles Creed also gutted a Hulk and an Adamantiumized Exiles Creed one-shot a T'challa-Namor character.
-------"Sinister grabbed Creed up by the back of his neck like he was restraining a house cat."------
Classic Creed. What does that have to do with Warpath?
-------"Just because Wolverine can do it doesn't mean that Creed could."-----
Correction: Wolverine *did* do it. He wasn't using his claws and his striking was effective as was his speed and fighting ability, consistent to when Logan sparred a bit with Thunderbird.
--------"a drop from that height should KO-Comatose non adamantium Creed."--------
Creed's been shot out of a torpedo port from the upper atmosphere... He just stood back up.
We've seen Creed headbut Warpath and it was effective.
We've seen Logan kick and punch Warpath and Thunderbird, and it was effective.
We've seen Creed take one claw swipe at Warpath, it was effective.
We've seen Warpath knocking Creed through a hellicarrier with multiple blows, it was not effective.
They already fought: Warpath had a flying headstart, a blindside cheap-shot, and he still couldn't take control of that scrap even though all Creed was doing was trolling him.
If Warpath could beat Creed (and it's not impossible by any means), he sure hasn't had a good go of it so far.
So far, Warpath *has* shown that he's emotionally compromised in concerns to Creed, so he's the likely of the two to fight messy and make mistakes. So far, we've seen a serious Proudstar come up short actively trying to take Creed down or hold him tight. So far, we haven't seen a serious Sabretooth take Warpath on.
Originally posted by jinzin
---------"Compare how well both did against Classic Juggernaut for starters."-----------What for?
Wapath knocked Juggs off a building top and they traded some blows, the narrative insisted Warpath with his team backing him had no chance of winning and he claimed to be exhausted not long after they got started.Idk that Creed ever fought classic Juggs, though he did fight the version that was chumin' with the X-Men for some undisclosed amount of time with a team of Brotherhood backing him up. Aside from a couple panels of Creed tearing at the back of his helmet, we don't know how he fared, though he didn't seem to be exhausted while running into half the X-Men the next day.
So other than Warpath not dying, what was supposed to be impressive here?
-------"Again, compare how well the Thing did against the Juggernaut, to how well Warpath"-------
And again what for? Thing stepped to Creed after Human Torch blasted him and Creed still practically doubled Thing over with a one-shot when Mystique ordered him to stop playing around. How does bringing up Thing help Warpath's case here?... (Other than the fact that it doesn't.)
Originally posted by jinzin
-----------"And a Creed broke his talons/claws on the grey Hulk's hide."----------You claim you were referencing Ultimates verse, but the only time I'm aware of anything like this happening was between Exiles Creed and Maestro... Which.... If we're cool bringing up Exiles Creeds then great let's not forget an Exiles Creed also gutted a Hulk and an Adamantiumized Exiles Creed one-shot a T'challa-Namor character.
-------"Sinister grabbed Creed up by the back of his neck like he was restraining a house cat."------
Classic Creed. What does that have to do with Warpath?
-------"Just because Wolverine can do it doesn't mean that Creed could."-----
Correction: Wolverine *did* do it. He wasn't using his claws and his striking was effective as was his speed and fighting ability, consistent to when Logan sparred a bit with Thunderbird.
--------"a drop from that height should KO-Comatose non adamantium Creed."--------
Creed's been shot out of a torpedo port from the upper atmosphere... He just stood back up.
We've seen Creed headbut Warpath and it was effective.
We've seen Logan kick and punch Warpath and Thunderbird, and it was effective.
We've seen Creed take one claw swipe at Warpath, it was effective.
We've seen Warpath knocking Creed through a hellicarrier with multiple blows, it was not effective.They already fought: Warpath had a flying headstart, a blindside cheap-shot, and he still couldn't take control of that scrap even though all Creed was doing was trolling him.
If Warpath could beat Creed (and it's not impossible by any means), he sure hasn't had a good go of it so far.
So far, Warpath *has* shown that he's emotionally compromised in concerns to Creed, so he's the likely of the two to fight messy and make mistakes. So far, we've seen a serious Proudstar come up short actively trying to take Creed down or hold him tight. So far, we haven't seen a serious Sabretooth take Warpath on.
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