Originally posted by beatboks
The same post crisis Arthur has gone toe to toe with Conner Kent and taken his blows.Also fought and withsood the blows of warrior Guy Gardner with his alien shape shifing DNA (same Guy was out muscling Major Force)
In JLA got punched by Dianna through a wall across a city block of Atlantis and through another wall and he got straight back up and came back into the fight.
Lowballing does noone favors ot even the argument of the one lowballing
Never saw Major Force as that tough.
I mean, a noob Kyle beat him.
Agree about Guy.
Originally posted by -Pr-Not when characters are often downplayed. How can we quantify the force a character (far outside their weight class) is hitting with when either they could either be stronger than normal, the character they are hurting weaker in durability than normal, or a combination of both?
Him hurting the character he's hitting is a clue in and of itself.
We seen characters tank millions of tons of pressure but get hurt (or feel pain) to forces less than 100 tons all the time.
Difference between Low showings to high showings can range in the astronomical amount.
Spider-Man is technically around the 20 ton range (50 ton optimally). The writer definitely didn't view Spidey with million ton strength when hitting Firelord. But rather, He viewed firelord's durability at a level slightly above optimal Spidey (50ton range or so).
Originally posted by StoicI know. But in the mind of the writer, what strength level was he at? Clearly no writer thinks Spidey can press small mountains or lift aircraft carriers.
Spiderman has exhibited 100 ton strength feats. Just putting that out there. He can injure Aquaman. Look at his fights with Morlun.
Originally posted by beatboks
The same post crisis Arthur has gone toe to toe with Conner Kent and taken his blows.Also fought and withsood the blows of warrior Guy Gardner with his alien shape shifing DNA (same Guy was out muscling Major Force)
In JLA got punched by Dianna through a wall across a city block of Atlantis and through another wall and he got straight back up and came back into the fight.
Lowballing does noone favors ot even the argument of the one lowballing
stilt lowballing aquaman? 😂 noooooo, can't be
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
beatboks's post is pure wanking and the very first paragraph is 100% wrong.Conner made Arthur his b!tch.
Aquaman looked good during their underwater rematch, but was f*cking useless on land.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2049404-aquaman_fight_skill_1.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2049415-aquaman_vv_superboy_2.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/3/30145/2049414-aquaman_v_superboy_3.jpg
What exactly is wrong about it?
I said he has gone toe to toe, and he has. He even says he was holding back
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Scans out of context, in wrong order.Again, he was shitstomped on land.
Who cares what he can do underwater? We rarely ever make underwater matches on kmc.
Consession accepted
That isnt a "shitstomp"
Nevermind the fact your own scans show exactly what I said. He took Conner's punches. He got knocked to the ground but wasn't damaged. Did you not notice he got straight back up? Or that Conner even confirmed he was holding back (when he stated Arthur hadnt tried to slash him with the hook hand). Other than that a punch and a brief pin under foot.
Conner has greater striking power than Peter and he "didnt hurt him" knocking the wind out of him that didnt even stop him from getting straight back on his feat, clearly shows he wasnt hurt.
Here are aome others massively stronger than Peter who have used that strength to punch him with no significant damage
Being punched by a angry Lobo, WW, a Malefic possessed MMH, and an Eclipso possessed Powergirl are all greater durability feats than Conner Kent as he was portrayed at that early stage (later on Conner got more impressive). Given we see that the WW punch sent him through a wall, across a city block and thru another we have confirmation she wasnt hilding back.
You can add to that
Ergo
Theres alao things like this
https://m.imgur.com/rmCyXbf
But that was with the water hand and it had healing regenerative propeties so not feats you can apply as standard
Here on the other hand we have Arthur taking a little damage (though to out completely just for a 10 count) after Orion blasta him with the freakin astro force
Similarly hes tanked martian vision, starro and Amazo blasts, missiles to the Chest, laser blasts, black manta blasts, but Batman and Joker Aren't lowballing? Sure they're not
