Roe v Wade ruling itself is a prime example of judicial activism. There is absolutely nothing in the Constitition about having a right to kill an unborn child.
Now that conservatives want that horrible ruling to be overturned so it will be sent back to the states leftists claim that would be judicial activism when the ruling itself was judicial activism.
If Roe vs. Wade is overturned it will become a much larger fight again, I suppose at that point the Liberals will start considering federal legislation about it as well. I guess we'll see what happens. Legal abortion (both under all and under specific circumstances) is overwhelmingly popular in the US, so that would probably be a good policy for the Democrats, and also ensure that this "cultural war" will be the focus and capitalist elites won't have to change anything for working people int he US.
Originally posted by Artol
If Roe vs. Wade is overturned it will become a much larger fight again, I suppose at that point the Liberals will start considering federal legislation about it as well. I guess we'll see what happens. Legal abortion (both under all and under specific circumstances) is overwhelmingly popular in the US, so that would probably be a good policy for the Democrats, and also ensure that this "cultural war" will be the focus and capitalist elites won't have to change anything for working people int he US.
If Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortion will not suddenly become illegal, it will become an issue in each state legislature. Practically-speaking, not much will change for people. De facto abortion bans in red states will simply become de jure, and people will continue to travel to blue states to have abortions like they do now. The only significant change is that Republicans will no longer have abortion as an issue to turn-out voters, but Democrats will. It is a short-sighted and stupid power grab that is going to cost Republicans long-term prospects.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If Roe v. Wade is overturned, abortion will not suddenly become illegal, it will become an issue in each state legislature. Practically-speaking, not much will change for people. De facto abortion bans in red states will simply become de jure, and people will continue to travel to blue states to have abortions like they do now. The only significant change is that Republicans will no longer have abortion as an issue to turn-out voters, but Democrats will. It is a short-sighted and stupid power grab that is going to cost Republicans long-term prospects.
You're overall correct as usual, but you're not factoring in that Republicans will still use that boogeyman to rally in the low intellects, even if it's not really an issue anymore. They'll try and angle to make abortion illegal on a federal level "millions of babies being murdered in the evil liberal states", granted, they'll probably never actually go for it, but they'll use it.
But yeah, it will be a far less effective banner if Roe V. Wade is abolished.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're overall correct as usual, but you're not factoring in that Republicans will still use that boogeyman to rally in the low intellects, even if it's not really an issue anymore. They'll try and angle to make abortion illegal on a federal level "millions of babies being murdered in the evil liberal states", granted, they'll probably never actually go for it, but they'll use it.But yeah, it will be a far less effective banner if Roe V. Wade is abolished.
I think they will try to keep the momentum going, but I do not think it will work. Once abortion is banned in red states, the enthusiasm will drop precipitously. When same-sex marriage became legalized federally, the will to continue fighting it in the states disappeared. The same thing will happen with abortion. Once red states ban it, the will of the rank-and-file Pro-Lifers to keep fighting will evaporate. Some die-hard ideologues will want to keep fighting the good fight, but the enthusiasm will not be there from voters. And the entire issue was manufactured by Republicans to mobilize voters. When that stops working, it stops being useful, and they will quietly abandon it.
Originally posted by Surtur
I just don't actually think that the fears about abortion and healthcare will come to pass.We were told Kavanaugh would do the same, but he seems to have been pretty meh.
You pray they won't come to pass because you'd lose your "County Care" and if you ever had sex and got a woman pregnant, you'd want the option on the table to abort.
The abortion topic has not been voted on and they'll be voting on the future of the ACA on Nov 10th. So we don't know yet. It's possible millions of Americans could lose some or all of their health insurance.
Originally posted by Robtard
You pray they won't come to pass because you'd lose your "County Care" and if you ever had sex and got a woman pregnant, you'd want the option on the table to abort.The abortion topic has gone been voted on and they'll be voting on the future of the ACA on Nov 10th. So we don't know yet. It's possible millions of Americans could lose some or all of their health insurance.
*yawn* Okay, you've repeated your same talking points as before. Anything else?