Define European left wing/right wing

Started by BackFire2 pages

It’s just not correct usage of the word. Fascism is a specific meaning. It’s not just all authoritarianism or dictatorships.

Like communist countries use similar methods of oppression but that’s not fascism. It’s just as bad but it would be described using other terms.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Damn, it's the Nazi's being on the right that triggers you. Surt is it you see similarities here to now? the Nazis tried to appeal to voters across the spectrum, the party’s founders and initial base were small-business men and artisans, not the industrial proletariat of Marxist lore. Their first notable electoral successes were in small towns and Protestant rural areas in present-day Thuringia and Saxony, among voters suspicious of cosmopolitan, secular cities who associated both “socialism” and “capitalism” with Jews and foreigners.
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Tump tried to appeal to voters across the spectrum, the party’s founders and initial base were small-business men and artisans, not the industrial proletariat of Marxist lore. Their most notable electoral successes were in small towns and Protestant/Evangelical rural areas in present-day Southern USA, among voters suspicious of cosmopolitan, secular cities who associated both “socialism” with Europeans and foreigners.

You lost. Take the L.

Originally posted by BackFire
It’s just not correct usage of the word. Fascism is a specific meaning. It’s not just all authoritarianism or dictatorships.

Like communist countries use similar methods of oppression but that’s not fascism. It’s just as bad but it would be described using other terms.

By all means define fascism and communism and outline the differences, cuz this post could almost read like "left wing fascists are just communists". Was that your intent?

Originally posted by Surtur
You lost. Take the L.
Oh Surt, you mean you're lost but read it again you will find your way. Night little pal.

Originally posted by Surtur
By all means define fascism and communism and outline the differences, cuz this post could almost read like "left wing fascists are just communists". Was that your intent?

Well for one communism is generally defined as left wing and fascism is right wing.

Their similarities are in that they both deny rights to the population and are usually ruled via dictatorship. Both are anti democratic.

The differences are that fascism is often based around nationalism and embraces a rigid class base structure. Also usually involves hyper militarism and open racism. Fascism allows private property for some. Communism rejects economic classes as a whole and private property does exist in those regimes. Everything is owned by the state/community.

For communism did you mean private property "doesn't" exist cuz u said does...

Yes sorry. In communism private property does not exist.

That's why Star trek was never ever communist like some retards have tried to claim.

Thankfully nobody here tho.

I’m only vaguely familiar with Star Trek and it’s mythos but I assume the society it depicts is probably socialist with capitalist traits.

Sisko's dad has his own restaurant.

Sisko owns property on a planet in the federation.

Yes if people actually own property then it’s not communism. It could be communism if he simply runs the restaurant but doesn’t have the ability to close it or move it or things like that.

Another thing in communism is that a person’s job is usually assigned to them. They can’t make the choice themselves to go be a baker or something. They’re told to do that and that’s that.

Yeah, Star Trek is at least semi-socialist more than it is communist... though I don't know how that's relevant.

Lol folk in the federation can literally pursue whatever.

Yes he has the ability to close it, etc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, Star Trek is at least semi-socialist more than it is communist... though I don't know how that's relevant.

I was making fun of whirly cuz yeah dude tried to die on that hill when it came to arguing it was communist.

And I guess it is theoretically possible for left wing fascism to exist. If a nation ticked all those boxes in the service of left wing politics. But a lot of those fly in the face of traditional left wing politics.

Originally posted by BackFire
And I guess it is theoretically possible for left wing fascism to exist. If a nation ticked all those boxes in the service of left wing politics. But a lot of those fly in the face of traditional left wing politics.

We'll find out if biden wins 😉

Biden will shed his skin as a centrist and become left wing Hitler.

Oh ffs Surt. Communism is the idea that all produce is owned by the government and given to people according to those who need it the most in order to keep everyone working to make more produce.

Fascism is the idea that the government is a corporation amongst other independent corporations and acts like one so private investors can fund or trade with the government as if it's a business like the other already existing businesses with the exception that the fascist government owns all the people including those who work for the other corporations.

They're both authoritarian, but in very different ways. One has control of all production and distribute it accordingly to a person's need, whereas the second acts as the supervisor to all the other corporations. IE, like Backfire said, Fascism allows competition but keeps the government in charge, but communism has no money, corps or competition; it all goes to the government.

Come TRY TO TAKE MY PRODUCE!

I will hurl tomatoes at your face