If he answers you does he get reported? Do we all get reported for not seeing what you apparently saw? Should you be reported for doing the same to every other character that isn't from Krpton, or more specifically from DC? Perhaps the Mods should take a closer look at why people are particularly speculative of this one showing? From my stance, it isn't an attempt to lowball. I just don't see how he directly destroyed a multiverse, and the next time that DarkSaint quotes -Pr-, I will pm him, and explain why people are seeing the same thing that Alberto is seeing.
Ok, I'll quote another mod then.
Originally posted by Galan007
It really is cut and dry.Earlier in the arc World Forger stated that once his Hammer was lit, all he had to do was strike the Crisis Anvil, and *poof*, his multiverse would instantly replace the existing one:
https://i.imgur.com/jN0ET4j.jpgCut to this issue, and World Forger's Hammer is lit:
https://i.imgur.com/lU3wRvS.jpgHis Crisis Anvil is fully formed:
https://i.imgur.com/N7Lg0Jr.jpgHe was literally in the process of striking the Anvil and replacing multiverses:
https://i.imgur.com/i3XUGbm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uCKx4pJ.jpgBut before his swing connects, Superman punches him and destroys the Anvil:
*In the last scan you can actually see reality being shattered.Cut to World Forger stating that his multiverse collapsed:
https://i.imgur.com/wKyuQix.jpgSimple logic is simple.
Originally posted by Stoic
If he answers you does he get reported? Do we all get reported for not seeing what you apparently saw? Should you be reported for doing the same to every other character that isn't from Krpton, or more specifically from DC? Perhaps the Mods should take a closer look at why people are particularly speculative of this one showing? From my stance, it isn't an attempt to lowball. I just don't see how he directly destroyed a multiverse, and the next time that DarkSaint quotes -Pr-, I will pm him, and explain why people are seeing the same thing that Alberto is seeing.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Abhi is like that one dude you don't expect anything logical to come out of their mouth but pray for the best.
Originally posted by Stoicwhen Beatty and WBH collided and destroyed Umar’s world, did the punch the planet? Superman punched multiversal+ WF in the 6th dimension so hard that the power of the punch destroyed a multiverse even after WF’s chin absorbed most of the destructive energy from it.
No one is arguing whether or not the multiverse was destroyed. It's the means by which it was destroyed that is being argued. Did Superman punch a planet to dust and the cascading effects of said punch travel to all corners of that multiverse destroying all that was within, or did Superman KO the World Forger causing the multiverse to lose cohesion due to his lack of consciousness?
Originally posted by Diesldude
when Beatty and WBH collided and destroyed Umar’s world, did the punch the planet? Superman punched multiversal+ WF in the 6th dimension so hard that the power of the punch destroyed a multiverse even after WF’s chin absorbed most of the destructive energy from it.
Correction. The Hulk and Betty's collision destroyed Umar's Kingdom. Several years ago, Hulkster provided scans of the size of the Kingdoms governed by the denizens of the Dark Dimension, and the scans said that they were the size of solar systems. They also had gravity.
Alberto posted a scan showing that the multiverse that World Forger was creating had not fully been created (that scan is on this very page). Superman punched him out just before that multiverse was completed. Punching out the World Forger is not the same as one shot destroying a multiverse. He was then berated, insulted, and threatened. He made a very good point, because if Superman actually destroyed that multiverse it would have had to have been fully formed. We know that it wasn't because if it was, it would've replaced the original multiverse which it had not.
Superman KO'd a Darkseid/Anti Monitor level opponent. That within itself was a huge feat. Read that scan again, and see why there are people that agree with what Alberto is saying.
Originally posted by Stoic
Correction. The Hulk and Betty's collision destroyed Umar's Kingdom. Several years ago, Hulkster provided scans of the size of the Kingdoms governed by the denizens of the Dark Dimension, and the scans said that they were the size of solar systems. They also had gravity.
This is a lie.
Alberto posted a scan showing that the multiverse that World Forger was creating had not fully been created (that scan is on this very page). Superman punched him out just before that multiverse was completed.
This is a lie too. Forger's multiverse was complete, he was going to replace main DC multiverse with his new multiverse.
Punching out the World Forger is not the same as one shot destroying a multiverse. He was then berated, insulted, and threatened. He made a very good point, because if Superman actually destroyed that multiverse it would have had to have been fully formed. We know that it wasn't because if it was, it would've replaced the original multiverse which it had not.
What's this nonsense? Main DC multiverse was getting erased by Mxy, once it was done, Forger would replace the multiverse with a new one which he had created.
Superman KO'd a Darkseid/Anti Monitor level opponent. That within itself was a huge feat. Read that scan again, and see why there are people that agree with what Alberto is saying.
Because its not true at all.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Right.I thought I would look into it.
Dr Strange: Sorcerer Supreme #21:
The EM spectrum (electricty, light) seems to be weaker. But the main thing is that gravity is weaker.
However, the Mhurruks stabilised gravity through magic:
Note that it doesn't say that they added gravity, merely stabilised it. They DID, however, through magic, create light. Umar and Dormammu, however, are NOT Mhurruks. They are Faltinian.
Dr Strange: Sorcerer Supreme #50:
Matter is more fragile than '616' matter.
Dark Dimension matter is more fragile than '616' matter. Moreover, whilst the dimensions seem larger, there is also a lot more empty space between them (hence the weaker gravity).
Originally posted by Stoicyou missed the point thought. You’re asking to see Superman punching the multiverse but hulk and Beatty never punched Umar’s world but you accept it.
Correction. The Hulk and Betty's collision destroyed Umar's Kingdom. Several years ago, Hulkster provided scans of the size of the Kingdoms governed by the denizens of the Dark Dimension, and the scans said that they were the size of solar systems. They also had gravity.Alberto posted a scan showing that the multiverse that World Forger was creating had not fully been created (that scan is on this very page). Superman punched him out just before that multiverse was completed. Punching out the World Forger is not the same as one shot destroying a multiverse. He was then berated, insulted, and threatened. He made a very good point, because if Superman actually destroyed that multiverse it would have had to have been fully formed. We know that it wasn't because if it was, it would've replaced the original multiverse which it had not.
Superman KO'd a Darkseid/Anti Monitor level opponent. That within itself was a huge feat. Read that scan again, and see why there are people that agree with what Alberto is saying.
And, Alberto keeps changing his argument. Now he’s saying it was a compact multiverse? WTH. Or is it not created? Which one? His links don’t work.
On panel it was stated that the WF Multiverse was more mature than the current one. How is something that is more mature, be compact or not created? The anvil strike was going to basically transfer everyone that didn’t agree with Luther into the new multiverse and destroy everyone else in the current multiverse. If it wasn’t ready, why was he going to transfer everyone into it? This is why bats questioned WF about Superman trapped on a galaxy prison. Superman wasn’t going to get transferred because he was against this and bats wasn’t happy about this.
So just catching up, so how does a multiverse just vanish on it’s own? LOL
Why didn’t it vanish before all these events? It’s a more mature multiverse so it more stable, stronger.
Why would it vanish if the transfer didn’t happen? No where did it state that it would be destroyed if WF didn’t perform the transfer.
This Superman isn’t in this thread but regular Superman wins anyway.
Originally posted by Diesldude
does superboy prime have reality warping powers when he throws a retcon punch? And you don’t need reality warping powers to destroy something. Did WBH and Beatty have reality warping powers?
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is a lie.This is a lie too. Forger's multiverse was complete, he was going to replace main DC multiverse with his new multiverse.
What's this nonsense? Main DC multiverse was getting erased by Mxy, once it was done, Forger would replace the multiverse with a new one which he had created.
Because its not true at all.
Superman had to leave the 6th-Dimensional space he was at to get to Forger, who had been in the regular Multiverse and on the regular Multiverse, because... he was about to replace it. his anvil BEING vital or key to how he brings new REALITIES into existence.
