Originally posted by Stoic
Compare a snail, to a cheetah in terms of movement speed. Forget travel speed for a moment. Thor and the Surfer would be perceived as if they were moving in slow motion if Superman decided to use his speed alone. This is before the hit parade begins. This is pretty much the way that the fight would go, whether you like it or not, they wouldn't even have the time to blink once before he hit them 100 times.Superman would rain blow after unanswered painful blow on either of these two (remember the Runner vs Surfer?). They'd know that something was hitting them, but they wouldn't actually be able to react to it. 10 seconds to them would be an hour or hours for Superman as he'd be afforded the option of beating them down. It's honestly a no contest because of his speed. Imagine this, what would take them years, or even eons to do, Superman did in seconds. Queue in the Moon repair feat as just one example. It would be pretty much be impossible for them to win.
Thor, and the Surfer should actually never be able to beat Hyperion, Gladiator, Wonder Woman, Sentry, or any character that is multiple times faster than they are in terms of combat speed. They'd literally have to stand there motionless in order to lose.
And yet Mongul took Superman BEST Punch And got back UP. .PS 1st Fight ended in a Stalemate and Mongul Doesn't Get Stronger When Madder. Either on T2 would FLAT out KO Supes in a single hit the moment they get serious, this isn't up for dispute