Originally posted by Tzeentch
Is the SJW bullshit more responsible for the drop in ratings than the fact that the season was basically cut in half due to the pandemic and is now competing for viewership with other sports that it historically never had to compete with before?
^This is why Tzeen is one of the smartest in KMC. Concise insight.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Is the SJW bullshit more responsible for the drop in ratings than the fact that the season was basically cut in half due to the pandemic and is now competing for viewership with other sports that it historically never had to compete with before?
Yes, yes it is more responsible. Did you have a follow up question?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Elite athletes are rarer than people who can teach. Most teachers can't fill a classroom led alone a stadium. It's supply and demand rather than anything sinister.
Didn't one sports owner say "There's always someone to pick the cotton"?
Or something? I can't seem to find it now, but I remember one owner made a highly offensive comment once.
I did find this though:
https://time.com/81170/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-nba-adam-silver/
Wow, and this guys worth 2 billion. Wonder how prevalent this attitude is behind the scenes?
Originally posted by Quincy
I dunno bruv, I just plugged in "NBA Ratings" and it's a lot lot lot of people using that same woke broke joke and getting real salty. That seems like, people who had been triggered. But hey, folks react to things how they react to things. Or become apathetic to a thing they like and then not react at all and that in itself is a reaction. Who knows yooooo
Journalists, bloggers, and opinion writers writing about the millions of people not watching the NBA do not represent the millions. The polls are much better representations.
Those writers will sensationalize and use charged language.
loss of interest != triggerdom
Originally posted by Quincy
Surt coming in with that signature smudge-ness. The knockout blow
*shrugs* It's what we always see whenever wokeness is alluded to be the reasons behind failure. We see the same excuses trotted out whenever an award shows ratings hit a new low, etc. We saw similar excuses when the NFL took a ratings hit after all the kneeling.
Anything to try to ignore the fact the average person is sick and tired of woke nonsense.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Is the SJW bullshit more responsible for the drop in ratings than the fact that the season was basically cut in half due to the pandemic and is now competing for viewership with other sports that it historically never had to compete with before?
No. You're making a case for hyper-consumption where we'd see massive spikes in ratings especially for the many people stuck at home.
We didhn't. We saw massive drops. And actual polls told us why: SJW bullshit.
Originally posted by dadudemonLooks at last page, wonders why Ddm angrily want's to push a troll narrative.
And based on the responses from some in this thread, looks like some of you are triggered that the NBA realized their SJW bullshit didn't create more ratings.Here's some advice: less SJW bullshit in your life, more thinking in your life.
This thread is similar with the claim that was had two-ish years ago regarding Gillette, that a single commercial that triggered a very small minority of sensitive men is the reason Gillette's sales were down. When in reality it was that more and more men are growing beards; dropping the clean shaven look and the rise of cheap(er) quality razor blades that you can have delivered to your house at a fraction of the cost. eg Dollar Shave Club, Harry's, ShaveMob etc.
Originally posted by Robtard
This thread is similar with the claim that was had two-ish years ago regarding Gillette, that a single commercial that triggered a very small minority of sensitive men is the reason Gillette's sales were down. When in reality it was that more and more men are growing beards; dropping the clean shaven look and the rise of cheap(er) quality razor blades that you can have delivered to your house at a fraction of the cost. eg Dollar Shave Club, Harry's, ShaveMob etc.
You know what due to your specific post I am cancelling all my harry future purchases🙂 While that could have been a reason they lost far more then just a movement.
Originally posted by Tzeentchprobably no way 2 tell for sure but id say the disjointed season and competition with other leagues along with less than desirable playoff matchups and sometimes odd scheduling choices would account for the lions share.
Is the SJW bullshit more responsible for the drop in ratings than the fact that the season was basically cut in half due to the pandemic and is now competing for viewership with other sports that it historically never had to compete with before?
The competing with other leagues part is obvious. The major leagues go out of their way to schedual their seasons (especially playoffs) with as little overlap with the other leagues for a reason. Its to avoid this-
"The competition clearly plays a major role in not just the NHL’s poor viewership, but comparatively poor viewership for all live sports. Over 13 million people watched live sports on Saturday night, which is fantastic. But with the NHL, NBA, MLB, college football, and NASCAR all in action, the audience was naturally divided. How many of the four million people that watched college football in primetime three days ago would have watched the NBA or NHL playoffs if football wasn’t on? Similarly, how many of the six million people that watched the NBA and NHL playoffs would have flipped over to college football?"
Having the NBA, MLB and NHL playoffs all going on at the same time as the start of the NFL and College football season is a recipe for a ratings disaster for all of them.
For the undesirable matchups, having the 2 time reigning league MVP Giannis and the Bucks getting bounced in the 2nd rnd in the East certainly didnt help ratings neither did losing reigning Finals MVP Kawai and the favored Clippers in the 2nd rnd out West.
We were left with a crummy Denver Nuggets vs Lakers western conference finals instead of the much anticipated Lakers/Lebron vs Clippers/Kawai. Which led to a crummy Lakers vs Heat finals instead of either the Lakers or Clippers facing the anticipated bucks with Giannis.
Add in the sometimes odd scheduling choices that had games with 2 East coast teams for example having a 9pm est start time, making it too late for alot of people out here to stay up and watch. In an effort to, i assume, help cater to west coast crowds that probably weren't going to watch the game anyway.
Originally posted by SurturSo if it's as definite as you claim, what is your source? There very well maybe some poll that explicitly asks how viewers feel about the NBA's involvement in politics, in which people overwhelmingly stated that they don't want to see politics mess with the NBA, but that poll is certainly not what was presented in the OP.
*shrugs* It's what we always see whenever wokeness is alluded to be the reasons behind failure. We see the same excuses trotted out whenever an award shows ratings hit a new low, etc. We saw similar excuses when the NFL took a ratings hit after all the kneeling.Anything to try to ignore the fact the average person is sick and tired of woke nonsense.
I don't understand why people always compare teachers to athletes, and I also don't understand why people think salaries are a zero-sum game.
Teachers and athletes have really nothing in common. Teachers are paid by the state. Athletes work for private entities and their money does not come from taxpayers- the Lions share of the money that athletes make comes from companies like Nike choosing to pay them millions of dollars. So it's not like athletes are competing with teachers and taking money that would be going to teachers. If pro athletes received 1/4 of the money that they're getting now, that would not translate to teachers getting paid more.
Conversely, if teachers got paid more that wouldn't have any effect on athletes. So why are athletes even part of the discussion? Just pay teachers more money.
It doesn’t really matter if subsititute content is the main contributor of the NBA’s lower ratings. It comes down to macro vs micro (factors that they cannot vs what they can control). You cannot control viewership loss from them your usual audience watching a different sport (you can influence it via marketing or having better content but we can only assume that they are already doing that up to the level of their current resources/competency). You CAN control viewership loss from SJW stuff if it is directly alienating a significant part of your viewership. The NBA would have polling on the % of their viewership affected, w/c we don’t have. We can only gauge by their actions IF the viewership impact is significant or not to mitigate the negative PR they’ll recieve (if any).