Karate Kid vs Shang- chi and Iron Fist.

Started by abhilegend6 pages

I said zing. All your responses are invalid now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He caught and redirected a character moving at FTL speed to the point he ended up in another solar system before Mon realized it. Even light takes more than 5.5 hours to cross our solar system.

And that's not impressive?

Where did it say he was traveling at light speed? The scan referenced him appearing like a missile. No where did it mention light speed. If anything about that scan is impressive, I suppose it would be Vals skill at his craft to sidestep the character and actually increase his velocity during the throw.

Originally posted by tkitna
Where did it say he was traveling at light speed? The scan referenced him appearing like a missile. No where did it mention light speed. If anything about that scan is impressive, I suppose it would be Vals skill at his craft to sidestep the character and actually increase his velocity during the throw.

Well the fact he had enough momentum to end up in another solar system shows he had speed - a lot of it.

Unless the other solar system is like....10km away, lol.

Originally posted by tkitna
Where did it say he was traveling at light speed? The scan referenced him appearing like a missile. No where did it mention light speed. If anything about that scan is impressive, I suppose it would be Vals skill at his craft to sidestep the character and actually increase his velocity during the throw.

Are you like incapable of reading?

Originally posted by tkitna
Where did it say he was traveling at light speed? The scan referenced him appearing like a missile. No where did it mention light speed. If anything about that scan is impressive, I suppose it would be Vals skill at his craft to sidestep the character and actually increase his velocity during the throw.

Redirect =/= increase. It means change the direction only.

Even if Val did increase his speed from missile to 100, 000, 000x FTL then that would mean Val is stronger than post crisis Superman by feats as that is more than stellar weight level force.

Not even seeing his point of lowballing it because of the word "missile". Is a descriptor, not a speed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you like incapable of reading?

Yes. Show me in the scan where it says he is traveling a light speeds. I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well the fact he had enough momentum to end up in another solar system shows he had speed - a lot of it.

Unless the other solar system is like....10km away, lol.

Momentum after the toss.

Originally posted by tkitna
Momentum after the toss.

.....

That momentum had to come from somewhere. Either Mon-El was traveling with enough speed to quickly reach another solar system, or Val added enough momentum in his toss to get him there.

Neither is exactly something I'd expect from Shang Chi.

Originally posted by tkitna
Momentum after the toss.

And where did the momentum come from?unless you're saying KK THREW him a solar system away?

Originally posted by tkitna
Momentum after the toss.
Originally posted by tkitna
Yes. Show me in the scan where it says he is traveling a light speeds. I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by h1a8
Redirect =/= increase. It means change the direction only.

Even if Val did increase his speed from missile to 100, 000, 000x FTL then that would mean Val is stronger than post crisis Superman by feats as that is more than stellar weight level force.

Originally posted by tkitna
Momentum after the toss.

So if a bell wasn't travelling at above Lightspeed the momentum after the tossed must have been produced by kk meaning he can throw you at 5 greater than Lightspeed cos let's remember that morning I didn't even know where he was it move that quick

But let's for the sake of argument take your lowball estimation of missile speed. A missile has an average speed of 4 1/2 Miles a second and arrow has an average speed of 225 ft per second. Buy your own scans Iron Fist is capable of reaction to Arrows I see movement of 2.25 feet per second kk is capable of reaction to something 4 1/2 miles per second (23,760 feet per second). In essence this puts Val's reaction speed at 10,560 x that of IF. This of course is where you'll start postingnscand of Danny bullet timing. Of course the average speed of a bullet in 390 ft/ second, and still fuys Val's reactions 61 x Danny's

Karate Kid should win with ease, Iron Fist and little wang Shang are pretty mediocre

Originally posted by beatboks
So if a bell wasn't travelling at above Lightspeed the momentum after the tossed must have been produced by kk meaning he can throw you at 5 greater than Lightspeed cos let's remember that morning I didn't even know where he was it move that quick

But let's for the sake of argument take your lowball estimation of missile speed. A missile has an average speed of 4 1/2 Miles a second and arrow has an average speed of 225 ft per second. Buy your own scans Iron Fist is capable of reaction to Arrows I see movement of 2.25 feet per second kk is capable of reaction to something 4 1/2 miles per second (23,760 feet per second). In essence this puts Val's reaction speed at 10,560 x that of IF. This of course is where you'll start postingnscand of Danny bullet timing. Of course the average speed of a bullet in 390 ft/ second, and still fuys Val's reactions 61 x Danny's

Val was very obviously using Mon El’s strength against him and it was written in a really dumb way as you can’t toss someone who can fly without overpowering their ability to fly. This is more of a feat of Mon El being overconfident than any sort of skill feat as he theoretically can lock himself in place with flight.

Danny has caught all the flechette (the shrapnel) in an explosive.

Also Danny caught a bullet AFTER it was fired with the barrel at the woman’s temple and caught the bullet before the powder burned her... and he was across a rooftop from her and surprised by her attempted suicide.

Mon-El's.... strength..

Lifting what? The universe? Because it looks to me like he's pressing the air in front if him while he charges at Val.

Also Danny caught a bullet AFTER it was fired with the barrel at the woman’s temple and caught the bullet before the powder burned her... and he was across a rooftop from her and surprised by her attempted suicide

Just to repeat

bullet 390 ft/sec
Missile 23,760 ft/sec

How is that an impressive feet comparitively?

Also a judo throw of a strike doesnt use ones strength but ones momentum against them.

SO... Who wins

Originally posted by beatboks
Just to repeat

bullet 390 ft/sec
Missile 23,760 ft/sec

How is that an impressive feet comparitively?

Also a judo throw of a strike doesnt use ones strength but ones momentum against them.

he closed the distance and caught it at point blank distance from his unamped state.

And Danny again did this after the hammer fell and the gun went off.

Also idk where you got your bullet specs from but the NRA states a standardized 9mm pistol round fires at about 1500 FPS but 7.8 can actually ramp it up to 2200fps.

And Again Danny didn’t know she planned to kill herself in front of her and he still saved her after the hammer fell and the gun went off.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
he closed the distance and caught it at point blank distance from his unamped state.

And Danny again did this after the hammer fell and the gun went off.

Also idk where you got your bullet specs from but the NRA states a standardized 9mm pistol round fires at about 1500 FPS but 7.8 can actually ramp it up to 2200fps.

And Again Danny didn’t know she planned to kill herself in front of her and he still saved her after the hammer fell and the gun went off.

....

So?

Ramp it up to 2200fps all you want, then double it....still nowhere near 23,760, lol.

And that's not assuming some weird future space missile....

Originally posted by tkitna
Yes. Show me in the scan where it says he is traveling a light speeds. I'll be waiting.

So are you saying that unless it's stated, nobody actually moves at lightspeed in comics.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Val was very obviously using Mon El’s strength against him and it was written in a really dumb way as you can’t toss someone who can fly without overpowering their ability to fly. This is more of a feat of Mon El being overconfident than any sort of skill feat as he theoretically can lock himself in place with flight.

Danny has caught all the flechette (the shrapnel) in an explosive.

Also Danny caught a bullet AFTER it was fired with the barrel at the woman’s temple and caught the bullet before the powder burned her... and he was across a rooftop from her and surprised by her attempted suicide.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
he closed the distance and caught it at point blank distance from his unamped state.

And Danny again did this after the hammer fell and the gun went off.

Also idk where you got your bullet specs from but the NRA states a standardized 9mm pistol round fires at about 1500 FPS but 7.8 can actually ramp it up to 2200fps.

And Again Danny didn’t know she planned to kill herself in front of her and he still saved her after the hammer fell and the gun went off.


Imagine showing these feats as impressive compared to tossing Mon El into a different solar system.