Silver Surfer vs 5 Imperiex probes

Yeah. I mean, he IS a ghost of his previous self, we all agree - he's intangible.

His PC is not. If anything, all abhi can argue that he can do now is fire blasts, rather than open blackholes or whatever.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like what exactly? Surfer has been changed into a new state, states he is a ghost of former self and there's zero proof that he is at full power except assumptions.

What proof is there for Surfer to be at full power?

Your logic is backward. You have to prove he's diminished, not that he's not.

Like this:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. I mean, he IS a ghost of his previous self, we all agree - he's intangible.

His PC is not. If anything, all abhi can argue that he can do now is fire blasts, rather than open blackholes or whatever.

That's much better.

Okay, so his PC was obviously affected, then. Unless there are feats of him doing things other than "blasting and annihilating" then that's all he can do for now.

Well, I did. He is incomplete and a ghost of his previous self.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, I did. He is incomplete and a ghost of his previous self.

Like I said, that's too vague, especially on a forum where we like to use definitive feats.

Black Surfer = playing with cheatcodes.

Noclip turned on.

I don't see Surfer being able to damage their shell with blasts. So this could be a stalemate.

Classic Surfer could possibly lose though

What stops Surfer from reaching into their heads and blasting whatever passes for a brain out of their nose holes?

Originally posted by Stoic
What stops Surfer from reaching into their heads and blasting whatever passes for a brain out of their nose holes?

They are not proven to have anything on the inside but energy.

The best guess we have is the Aegis armor as it was a burnt out probe. Inside the armor there is nothing.

Assuming there is something inside then we can't be sure if the writer wants those parts to be just as durable.

Good point. You may be right, so it would probably be best to see if the Surfer can still manipulate energy in his current state. I don't see why he couldn't but best to wait and see, unless others saw something that I missed?

Originally posted by Stoic
What stops Surfer from reaching into their heads and blasting whatever passes for a brain out of their nose holes?

You don't know what the probes are do you.

Can somebody show me where it was ever remotely confirmed or shown it wasn't Surfers own power when he created those suns? I genuinely think its something wrong with h1

Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't create sun's under his own power. Ego had something to do with it. And probes can most likely survive in a star.

He never really affected Knull. And what durability feats does Knull have?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Can somebody show me where it was ever remotely confirmed or shown it wasn't Surfers own power when he created those suns? I genuinely think its something wrong with h1

What does this have to do with current Surfer (which is most likely only reduced to blasting)?

And where do you get suns from (plural)? Maybe we are talking about two separate events. What issue number are you referring to?

Originally posted by h1a8
What does this have to do with current Surfer (which is most likely only reduced to blasting)?

And where do you get suns from (plural)? Maybe we are talking about two separate events. What issue number are you referring to?

Are you actually this ---
Theres only one instance that happened............................................

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Are you actually this ---
Theres only one instance that happened............................................

The only instance I know is when he fought Knull.
But that was a single sun (not suns).

If that is what you are referring to but mistakingly said "suns" instead of "sun" then

Ego helped Surfer collect energy of life from countless worlds. In the fight with Knull, Surfer unleashes the life energy stored within him (both the life energy he collected from Ego and his own life energy) to create an infant sun. You even see this newly gained energy in Surfer's hand as he goes off to face Knull.

Originally posted by h1a8
The only instance I know is when he fought Knull.
But that was a single sun (not suns).

If that is what you are referring to but mistakingly said "suns" instead of "sun" then

Ego helped Surfer collect energy of life from countless worlds. In the fight with Knull, Surfer unleashes the life energy stored within him (both the life energy he collected from Ego and his own life energy) to create an infant sun. You even see this newly gained energy in Surfer's hand as he goes off to face Knull.

The first and Second Time, He wasn't amped.

Originally posted by h1a8
The only instance I know is when he fought Knull.
But that was a single sun (not suns).

If that is what you are referring to but mistakingly said "suns" instead of "sun" then

Ego helped Surfer collect energy of life from countless worlds. In the fight with Knull, Surfer unleashes the life energy stored within him (both the life energy he collected from Ego and his own life energy) to create an infant sun. You even see this newly gained energy in Surfer's hand as he goes off to face Knull.

He created multiple suns in that issue. Why are you debating on things you haven't read? Doesn't make any sense. We shouldn't have to spoon feed you.

Says the guy who needs spoonfeeding lmao.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Go get your kicks with Carver.

Don't even have to look at his post to know its in response to what I said. Lol... sad. Like, I feel sympathy for you, Dark.

I always respond to idiocy when its you.

I mean, when people post scans for you, you don't even read them, and ask people to hold your hand and point things out:

Originally posted by carver9
Where?

Originally posted by carver9
He created multiple suns in that issue. Why are you debating on things you haven't read? Doesn't make any sense. We shouldn't have to spoon feed you.