Trump Accountability Project

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Meaning no disrespect, but anyone who thinks it’s even possible for this project to someone catalogue an actionable list of all 71 milllion people who voted Trump is kidding themselves, including anyone actually involved in this effort.

It was very specific to:

1. Social Media (any Trumpers on social media that showed support to Trump). This can include hashtags to quickly find tens of millions of posts. Parsing through sarcastic "#MAGA" hashtags is a different story.
2. Donor records

And the list collection has already started. The donor records cannot disappear.

We live in the information age. Collecting this information is far far easier than the time of Red Scare.

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
And if you publicly support a person like Trump you can expect to get some flack for it.

So while accusations of fascism are cute, this is neither govt run nor legally enforceable

This is dangerously ignorant.

Members of the media and government are already participating in this and have been encouraging it for a few years, now. That is who needs to participate in fascist efforts to make fascism work.

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
AOC should be more careful in endorsing it however, as she will share the blame when it goes to shit.

She didn't endorse it, she directly asked for it.

Using DarthAloysius' logic

"Meaning no disrespect, but anyone who thinks it’s even possible for people to rape all women that wear short skirts is kidding themselves, including anyone actually involved in the effort.

At best they'll only succeed with a handy number of women, that wear short skirts. and find it more difficult to pretend they didn't. which yes, will probably spiral into an ugly mess of sexual violence.

But this is life, all of this already happens, life is replete with people that will attack women and if you wear short skirts in public, you can expect to get attacked occasionally.

So while accusations of fascism are cute, this is neither govt run nor legally enforceable, just an continuation of modern day sexual violence."

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Meaning no disrespect, but anyone who thinks it’s even possible for this project to someone catalogue an actionable list of all 71 milllion people who voted Trump is kidding themselves, including anyone actually involved in this effort.

At best they’ll create a handy record of politicians, donors and officials etc. who enabled Trump, and find it much more difficult to pretend that the didn’t. Which yes will probably spiral into an ugly mess of doxxing and Twitter harassment.

But this is the internet, all of this already happens, the web is already replete with hobbyist Twitter archivists, trolls and doxxers. And if you publicly support a person like Trump you can expect to get some flack for it.

So while accusations of fascism are cute, this is neither govt run nor legally enforceable, just an continuation of modern day cancel culture. AOC should be more careful in endorsing it however, as she will share the blame when it goes to shit.

They're going to catalog the words and actions of key and prominent people like Senators, heads of industry, mega donors. They're not going to bother with some random Trumper's "MAGA4Ever!" Facebook posts.

This is fearmongering with the calls to McCathism and the Holocaust.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It was very specific to:

1. Social Media (any Trumpers on social media that showed support to Trump). This can include hashtags to quickly find tens of millions of posts. Parsing through sarcastic "#MAGA" hashtags is a different story.
2. Donor records

And the list collection has already started. The donor records cannot disappear.

We live in the information age. Collecting this information is far far easier than the time of Red Scare.

This is dangerously ignorant.

Members of the media and government are already participating in this and have been encouraging it for a few years, now. That is who needs to participate in fascist efforts to make fascism work.

She didn't endorse it, she directly asked for it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Using DarthAloysius' logic

Doners are public record, aren't they?

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Who is being threatened with anything akin to sexual violence? Be serious.

Don't like your logic when it's applied to other things, huh?

Can I also be clear about the fact that 70 million people voted Trump?

Fascism needs the complicity of at least the majority of the population to function. Let’s dispense with the myth that the right are my any means a persecuted minority in the US, or any other Western nation.

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Thats still several million people, you’d need machinery akin to a well funded political campaign to do anything meaningful with it. There also remains the question of what “meaningful” action actually looks like, you can’t be prosecuted for just supporting Trump.

Oh, you mean like the 3 databases that already collected this information and already exists? So now what is your response?

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
And I’d be more worried if this was the work of the government...

Then be worried because it is. And members of the media. The exact recipe of fascism.

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
I agree, but I’m not seeing evidence of that presented in this thread.

It exists. I posted it. I used names, direct quotes, and links.

Are you trollin', bro?

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
What she ‘asked’ for was very non-specific, but I agree she has now made herself complicit.

How is archiving (to hedge against deletions and denials) every single utterance of Trump support on social media so that Trumpers can be persecuted "non-specific"?

You DO understand that this is the same exact method (just through modern technology) that Stalin and Hitler used to squash political opponents and people who opposed them, right?

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Can I also be clear about the fact that 70 million people voted Trump?

Fascism needs the complicity of at least the majority of the population to function. Let’s dispense with the myth that the right are my any means a persecuted minority in the US, or any other Western nation.

No it doesn't. It only needs a significant portion of people in power to make it happen. And then stamp out the dissidents.

Additionally, did you notice that a majority of voters voted for Biden? So you're wrong from both angles.

Lastly, Trumpers have been consistently targeted for violence, cancel culture, and persecution for the last four years. That includes children wearing MAGA hats. Children.

It's like you're purposefully stating what needs to be present to make the situation bad by directly describing the situation. And then saying the situation doesn't exist. What's your angle?

And I still think you're Whirly.

At the end of the day it's not valid to have this list. It's just the sort of shit they'd cry about others doing.

And it will never end well for them. They always look at the beginning and never the end. They will not enjoy how this turns out unless they change. And No: there is no good reason for this.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're going to catalog the words and actions of key and prominent people like Senators, heads of industry, mega donors. They're not going to bother with some random Trumper's "MAGA4Ever!" Facebook posts.

This is fearmongering with the calls to McCathism and the Holocaust.

Don't forget the 2 things that you specifically left out (that makes it like McCarthyism) on purpose:

1. Trump Supporters (across all social media) and archiving those posts and people so they can't delete and hide from persecution.

2. And all those who donated to Trump.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't forget the 2 things that you specifically left out (that makes it like McCarthyism) on purpose because you're not a good person:

1. Trump Supporters (across all social media) and archiving those posts and people so they can't delete and hide from persecution.

2. And all those who donated to Trump.

So he's pulling his weasel shit again.

What a phaggot.

Originally posted by Surtur
At the end of the day it's not valid to have this list. It's just the sort of shit they'd cry about others doing.

And it will never end well for them. They always look at the beginning and never the end. They will not enjoy how this turns out unless they change. And No: there is no good reason for this.

Whether or not it is not okay to have such a list, such a list exists whether or not people make it because the information age has made it impossible to hide these things.

What these newer efforts do is aggregate all 3 lists into one list with the explicit purpose of persecution (likely violence).

With literal calls to violence against people who donated to Trump but scouring voting records, how can anyone (doesn't matter which side of the conversation you're on) honestly think this is fear mongering? With actual violence being perpetuated against Trumpers, how can anyone honestly say this is fear mongering?

If they are right, then these same people should have no issues donning MAGA hats and shirts and walking around areas currently experiencing civil unrest and in areas with ultra-high blue voting results. Watch as they magically come up with excuses for why this isn't a legitimate ask.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Whether or not it is not okay to have such a list, such a list exists whether or not people make it because the information age has made it impossible to hide these things.

What these newer efforts do is aggregate all 3 lists into one list with the explicit purpose of persecution (likely violence).

With literal calls to violence against people who donated to Trump but scouring voting records, how can anyone (doesn't matter which side of the conversation you're on) honestly think this is fear mongering? With actual violence being perpetuated against Trumpers, how can anyone honestly say this is fear mongering?

If they are right, then these same people should have no issues donning MAGA hats and shirts and walking around areas currently experiencing civil unrest and in areas with ultra-high blue voting results. Watch as they magically come up with excuses for why this isn't a legitimate ask.

What needs to happen is people need to acknowledge the purpose of this list. It's not meant to have legal consequences it is meant to have social consequences. This could range from just "shaming" to someone losing their job or being put in danger. And AOC is talking about people who are "complicit" and I do not trust these lunatics to properly define these words. I guarantee you her definition of "complicit" is as accurate as her definitions of racism, sexism, nazis, and fascism.

Which is to say not accurate at all.

Originally posted by Surtur
So he's pulling his weasel shit again.

What a phaggot.

Your rage and butthurt are intoxicating, surt. Keep up the insults.

Originally posted by Robtard

Giggle

Originally posted by Surtur
What needs to happen is people need to acknowledge the purpose of this list. It's not meant to have legal consequences it is meant to have social consequences. This could range from just "shaming" to someone losing their job or being put in danger. And AOC is talking about people who are "complicit" and I do not trust these lunatics to properly define these words. I guarantee you her definition of "complicit" is as accurate as her definitions of racism, sexism, nazis, and fascism.

Which is to say not accurate at all.

I really really love not being part of the the tribal politics. It's super cool not to be complicit in either side. The moral high ground. Soooo good. Much superior. Wow!

pained

Originally posted by Silent Master
Don't like your logic when it's applied to other things, huh?

It is not his logic, it is yours. You are the one who thinks a woman wearing a short skirt in public is inviting rape, in the same way that casting a public vote for a candidate is a public endorsement of that candidate. You deplorables really keep earning the label.

Originally posted by Surtur
So he's pulling his weasel shit again.

What a phaggot.

Takes one to know one.