Superman vs Knull

How did Surfer beat him again?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Those chains were forged by a black hole which makes them less durable than Terrax, Surfer, Thanos, etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
An inverted black hole, not a black hole. Apples to oranges.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How did Surfer beat him again?

My question is, name someone that Superman have beaten or gave a fight to for anyone to assume this is even a fight. Also, Apex Predator Luthor was garbage, so please don't mention him.

Really, just BFR? Huh. I thought it would've been more difficult to beat him.

Originally posted by carver9
My question is, name someone that Superman have beaten or gave a fight to for anyone to assume this is even a fight. Also, Apex Predator Luthor was garbage, so please don't mention him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How was he garbage when he shielded himself from all three brothers and stalemated Hawkgirl who had enough power to harm Perpetua?

Where did you get that it was his shield and lol, this is how he took Hawkgirl out...

https://ibb.co/hdHwF7J

Imagine if Thor or Surfer would've gotten taken out with a piece of metal a villain picked up off the ground.

Didn't Surfer take Knull out with suns?

I also want to point out that the Justice League was AMPED when they faced Luthor... there goes that showing. "I feel something. I feel it to. A STRENGTHENING. Jon did it". They walk out of the room glowing like Super Saiyans.

https://ibb.co/nBwmdd1

I think that's old news. I forget the details. Pretty sure it was explained somewhere.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I think that's old news. I forget the details. Pretty sure it was explained somewhere.

What was explained?

Originally posted by carver9
What was explained?

Someone posted about it.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think he bfr’d him.

Oh yeah, he created an infant sun and Knull was hurled away.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And how powerful is Superman's HV when he wants to heat water up?

He creates a miniature, localised supernova:
https://i.imgur.com/88532V3.jpg

So yeah, Batman tanked Superman's HV, which in that specific scenario was arguably hotter than 2000 degrees.

But back to the point, in both scenarios, a character 'tanks' attacks from other characters several levels above them. But Surfer is not PIS, and Batman is?

Superman uses his HV and blows him away.

Edit: also-
https://i.imgur.com/biRgien.jpg

Also:

This is Knull Vs Surfer:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/120267/7133637-2261978681-71300.jpg

Superman wins via BFR lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also:

This is Knull Vs Surfer:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/120267/7133637-2261978681-71300.jpg

Superman wins via BFR lmao.

a Knull from millions of years ago. he wasn't as powerful as he now. Silver Surfer Black took place billions of years ago when this iteration of the universe/multiverse was brand new. SSB took place while Galactus was still incubating and he’s the last person from the previous universe.

Did he get stronger then? I don't mean with the Necrosword, because he lost that.

Plus, Superman's HV is bigger than Surfers sun. It's actually heating the entire Earth. At the starting distance of 0.5km? Damn.

Based on what?

It wasn't an infant sun anyway, he’s forming a full sun. He falls out of it the next page back to the planet then used the remaining power mixed with his to seed life in the universe.

very next page. It’s a full sun:

Supermans hv is hotter than the core of a star.