Originally posted by Adam_PoEThen ignore anything I post.
You do not have a point, you have an opinion, i.e. my insults are childish. But my point is that your beliefs are childish, and should be treated as such. Your beliefs are worth of ridicule, and you are worthy of ridicule for holding them.
The fact that you are consistently trashing the Christian faith is pathetic.
let us not confuse Christianity and Catholicism
Catholicism invented Trinity where there is one god with three perfectly equal persons: father, son, holy ghost
in Christianity and in the Bible, there is a Godhead, the three are united as one but not perfectly equal: the Father is the greatest of all, greater than Christ and the Holy Ghost
Originally posted by dyajeepCatholicism invented Trinity where there is one god with three perfectly equal persons: father, son, holy ghost
Three persons by definition would be three beings.
Worshipping Jesus goes against the first two of the Ten Commandments. Hence why Jewish people worship One God and not Three.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Three persons by definition would be three beings.Worshipping Jesus goes against the first two of the Ten Commandments. Hence why Jewish people worship One God and not Three.
yup, but if they believe in the authenticity of the books of Proverbs (of Solomon) and Psalms as part of their doctrine then the Jews will contradict a doctrine where God has a Son who was with Him in the creation of the world
Originally posted by dyajeep
yup, but if they believe in the authenticity of the books of Proverbs (of Solomon) and Psalms as part of their doctrine then the Jews will contradict a doctrine where God has a Son who was with Him in the creation of the world
Well it's originally their book, so for them to interpret. The Ten Commandments was literally set in stone though.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well it's originally their book, so for them to interpret. The Ten Commandments was literally set in stone though.
i don't think it's theirs... but yeah, they can interpret it, it doesn't mean their interpretation is correct though
Psalms and Proverbs state that the Father God has begotten a Son, and prophet Isaiah prophesied a child born and be called a "Mighty God"
the Jews don't believe in the Trinity, i guess? i think they are more of a "oneness" type, just acknowledging the Father and not His Son
Originally posted by dyajeep
the Jews don't believe in the Trinity, i guess? i think they are more of a "oneness" type, just acknowledging the Father and not His Son
Well obviously because that was the First Commandment which was literally set in stone for them.
Christians really wanted to worship Jesus, but they were also aware of the Ten Commandments thats why theyve interpreted it that way. Where its One but Three.
But Hindus also say all their Gods have One essence. So that idea is essentially Polytheism. Especially when you make idols of your Gods which breaks the Second Commandment.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Christians really wanted to worship Jesus, but they were also aware of the Ten Commandments thats why theyve interpreted it that way. Where its One but Three.
yup, but that's Catholicism...i believe they are many Protestants who also embrace Christianity but that reject Catholic doctrine of idolatry, or creating and worshipping graven images
Bible-based Christians worship Jesus Christ without using Catholic's Trinity, because in Trinity, the three persons are perfectly equal - which is not the case in the Bible, the Father is greater than Christ (John 14:28)
in the Bible, the Father Almighty is the supreme being, His state of being (or nature) is God
the Son, Jesus Christ, also has the same state of being (or nature) because He was born or begotten by the Father, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (John 3:6), He was the Word and the Word was God (John 1:1)
the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit is basically the Spirit of the Father given its own being (Matthew 10:20), if the Father has a state of being of God, so is His Spirit
in some sense or perspective, there is a synecdoche (collective term) here esp. by the Hebrew word "Elohim", transliterated as "God" but plural in meaning, in Greek there is "Theotes" or Godhead also pertaining to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Originally posted by dyajeep
yup, but that's Catholicism...i believe they are many Protestants who also embrace Christianity but that reject Catholic doctrine of idolatry, or creating and worshipping graven images
Well that's something.
Originally posted by dyajeep
Bible-based Christians worship Jesus Christ without using Catholic's Trinity, because in Trinity, the three persons are perfectly equal - which is not the case in the Bible, the Father is greater than Christ (John 14:28)
Exactly, the core doctrine of Christianity seems to be more extrapolation from the texts, than anything concrete told to them by Jesus.
Originally posted by dyajeep
in the Bible, the Father Almighty is the supreme being, His state of being (or nature) is Godthe Son, Jesus Christ, also has the same state of being (or nature) because He was born or begotten by the Father, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (John 3:6), He was the Word and the Word was God (John 1:1)
the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit is basically the Spirit of the Father given its own being (Matthew 10:20), if the Father has a state of being of God, so is His Spirit
in some sense or perspective, there is a synecdoche (collective term) here esp. by the Hebrew word "Elohim", transliterated as "God" but plural in meaning, in Greek there is "Theotes" or Godhead also pertaining to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
John's book were written last I believe, and his books give Jesus that Divine nature much more so than the others.