Who here can replicate this Superman feat?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Hence why I lowered the threshold down to 500kg, which when compared to the Earth's mass, is similar ratio wise between a (not specified) star and the Earth. It's like.....0.000000000001% or whatever (H1, check my maths) of the Earth.

What is going on here? Stop talking about Batman.

1. Batman can't bench-press 900 kilograms. No regular comic book human can. Throw these "500 lbs" you see in that scan out of the window. That was drawn by an idiotic artist, who has never lifted a set of weights in their life. The weight on the bar does not look like 900 kilograms. Your typical big plates are 45 LBS. These are the largest plates on that barbell. I won't try to make sense out of how much Batman might actually be lifting there, but those 500 LBS most likely tell us that he is lifting 500 LBS total, which is around 225 kilograms. Which is a very, very respectable weight for multiple reps. Even for Batman.

It also doesn't look too far off the 500 pound bar Captain America was curling: https://i.imgur.com/U6MaWpL.jpg.
Could Batman curl that weight for a couple of weights? Sure, why not. He is Batman.

Could Batman bench-press 1100 pounds (500 Kilograms) like Captain America, if he really went for it? https://i.imgur.com/LJfw3TW.jpg
Sure, why not. He is Batman. He'll struggle though.

Bench-pressing 2000 lbs for reps? Get the hell out of here.
Even if it's Batman, DC still has him following some kind of human logic from time to time... Like the time when Batman was still young and weaker – and a woman died, because he was too physically weak to save her. He went home and attempted to lift that weight again and failed again:
https://i.imgur.com/4bVPHjm.jpg

There Batman failed to deadlift 630 pounds. That's around 290 kilograms.
Obviously Batman by now won't struggle with that and he should be able to lift heavier weights... but it's not like he's some kind of a monster man, who could deadlift 4000 lbs, if we went with your weird scaling logic. Speaking of which:

2. No. Lowering the weight from 900 kilograms to 500 kilograms is not the same as going from the weight of a star to the weight of a planet. A star is not twice as heavy as a planet.
Besides that weights don't work like that in general. If one planet is your one rep max, then multiplying that with 9 won't ever allow you to even slightly move the 9 planets. But Thor did just that, when he moved the World Engine, which contains 9 worlds. And if 9 planets are your one rep max, then you can comfortably move the weight of one planet. Period. There is no discussion to be had here. And if you can generate strength to move one planet out of its orbit for decades on end, then you can do it for 5 days as well. Again, period.

3. You keep comparing Batman to Thor. Thor is not human. He does not have human physiology. His muscles don't build up lactic acid the same way a humans body does. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to arm wrestle Hercules for decades. Or wrestle with Hulk and Juggernaut for months.
I don't doubt that even Thor tires out eventually, but that eventually does not come after 5 days. If you can arm wrestle someone above planetary in strength for decades, then you can lift weights for 5 days (especially with the negative portion of a lift pretty much halving the effort you have to put in anyway).

You keep referring to Batman fighting canon fodder and then having to lift heavy weights for hours or days straight.
I keep referring to instances where Thor arm wrestles Hercules with enough strength to push a planet out of its orbit - and can do that for decades. Or fighting someone like the Hulk, who once he grabs you... you're pushing back against a planetary level strength person. And Thor does that for months. Why should he fail to exert planetary strength levels for 5 days then?

This is legit the weirdest argument I've ever had on this board and that's saying something.

Originally posted by carver9
Because he's obviously not just pushing earths apart. There is something that is pushing AGAINST the planets that made them crumble... 2 universes.

Then Hyperion only supplied the force to crumble the planets.
Also, the planets were not moving very fast. Therefore, the force that was pushing them was pretty low. You know that planets can crumble under their own weight right?

As universe expands, objects move outward. Me stopping an object moving doesn't mean I'm pushing against universal level force.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's also a massive endurance feat, just to point out. Can the other characters do it whilst cut off from their source of power (if possible) for five days straight?

Like, I can bench 20kg,easy.

But for five days with no food? Erm....

Problem is NEITHER of these characters are dependant on an external source of power. We also have no indication on whether they need a high intake of food or nutrients to maintain their abilities.
Combat we've seen them fight for hours, days and even months/years for some off them with little to no reprieve, so that could be one factor for just staying stationary.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've assumed the former, because

A: in the panel his arms are bent
B: the text said "you have been bench pressing that for five days".

Plus, the scientist said to test the upper limits of his strength, she'd need to invent something else to do so.

So it sounds like they were spending five days testing his stamina rather than strength.

Weight down:

Weight up/out:

Everyone who isn't trolling also knows what "five days" means -- it's a pretty basic/self-explanatory measurement of time:

As such we can logically deduce, from the 'limited' information presented, that Superman was pressing the equivalent weight of earth non-stop...for 5 days straight...absent of any sunlight/nourishment.

That said, no one listed in the OP has lifting feats indicative of them being able to replicate Superman's feat, unless we're just going full head-canon here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, everyone who isn't trolling knows what "bench pressing" means -- it's a pretty basic/self-explanatory exercise.

Weight down:

Weight up/out:

Everyone who isn't trolling also knows what "five days" means -- it's a pretty basic/self-explanatory measurement of time:

As such we can logically deduce, from the 'limited' information presented, that Superman was pressing the equivalent weight of earth non-stop...for 5 days straight...absent of any sunlight/nourishment.

That said, no one listed in the OP has lifting feats indicative of them being able to replicate Superman's feat, unless we're just going full head-canon here.

Thor lifted The World Engine
Hulk has generated enough force to lift a planet size celestial like Exitar
Hercules has lifted the heavens
Sentry casually lifted the planet size celestial.

Originally posted by Enzeru
What is going on here? Stop talking about Batman.

1. Batman can't bench-press 900 kilograms. No regular comic book human can. Throw these "500 lbs" you see in that scan out of the window. That was drawn by an idiotic artist, who has never lifted a set of weights in their life. The weight on the bar does not look like 900 kilograms. Your typical big plates are 45 LBS. These are the largest plates on that barbell. I won't try to make sense out of how much Batman might actually be lifting there, but those 500 LBS most likely tell us that he is lifting 500 LBS total, which is around 225 kilograms. Which is a very, very respectable weight for multiple reps. Even for Batman.

It also doesn't look too far off the 500 pound bar Captain America was curling: https://i.imgur.com/U6MaWpL.jpg.
Could Batman curl that weight for a couple of weights? Sure, why not. He is Batman.

Could Batman bench-press 1100 pounds (500 Kilograms) like Captain America, if he really went for it? https://i.imgur.com/LJfw3TW.jpg
Sure, why not. He is Batman. He'll struggle though.

Bench-pressing 2000 lbs for reps? Get the hell out of here.
Even if it's Batman, DC still has him following some kind of human logic from time to time... Like the time when Batman was still young and weaker – and a woman died, because he was too physically weak to save her. He went home and attempted to lift that weight again and failed again:
https://i.imgur.com/4bVPHjm.jpg

There Batman failed to deadlift 630 pounds. That's around 290 kilograms.
Obviously Batman by now won't struggle with that and he should be able to lift heavier weights... but it's not like he's some kind of a monster man, who could deadlift 4000 lbs, if we went with your weird scaling logic. Speaking of which:

2. No. Lowering the weight from 900 kilograms to 500 kilograms is not the same as going from the weight of a star to the weight of a planet. A star is not twice as heavy as a planet.
Besides that weights don't work like that in general. If one planet is your one rep max, then multiplying that with 9 won't ever allow you to even slightly move the 9 planets. But Thor did just that, when he moved the World Engine, which contains 9 worlds. And if 9 planets are your one rep max, then you can comfortably move the weight of one planet. Period. There is no discussion to be had here. And if you can generate strength to move one planet out of its orbit for decades on end, then you can do it for 5 days as well. Again, period.

3. You keep comparing Batman to Thor. Thor is not human. He does not have human physiology. His muscles don't build up lactic acid the same way a humans body does. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to arm wrestle Hercules for decades. Or wrestle with Hulk and Juggernaut for months.
I don't doubt that even Thor tires out eventually, but that eventually does not come after 5 days. If you can arm wrestle someone above planetary in strength for decades, then you can lift weights for 5 days (especially with the negative portion of a lift pretty much halving the effort you have to put in anyway).

You keep referring to Batman fighting canon fodder and then having to lift heavy weights for hours or days straight.
I keep referring to instances where Thor arm wrestles Hercules with enough strength to push a planet out of its orbit - and can do that for decades. Or fighting someone like the Hulk, who once he grabs you... you're pushing back against a planetary level strength person. And Thor does that for months. Why should he fail to exert planetary strength levels for 5 days then?

This is legit the weirdest argument I've ever had on this board and that's saying something.

Because it is the exact same logic you are using.

Saying it was drawn by an idiot artist etc, doesn't mean anything. It happened, in a canon comic. Thus we have to accept it. The 500lbs, btw, is only shown on ONE plate - you forgot the other side. So that's 1,000lbs. Then you need to add the oly bar, which is about 44lbs. Then you need to add the LARGER plates (let's lowball and say despite being larger than the 500lbs plate, they're actually....500lbs, lol).

So we are now at 2,044lbs. Then we need to add the smaller plates on as well. So we are now looking at...2,144?lbs. That's being conservative - if Bruce can have plates that size which are 500lbs, the smaller plates can easily be 100lbs, and the larger plates should be >500lbs.

Not weird scaling logic. It's depicted on panel. You don't like it? Really not my problem - I actually didn't write nor draw that comic.

Period? Note how I didn't even ask for 5 days. I asked for 3. But sure - let's say...2 hours. Can Batman just do solid benchpressing of 4/500kg for 2 hours straight? You used the World Engine feat as your proof - I will get on to that later.

I compare Batman to Thor, because you keep saying Batman is human and Thor is a god, as if that matters in comics. Batman does things no human can do, so it is completely moot.

Canon fodder? Ah, now we are getting somewhere! You said he fought for 40 days with no food, water or sleep - were these....cannon fodder?

But back to the World Engine. Now, if you were debating others in the forum (I won't name names, but you know), they would start lowballing or throwing that feat out, or appealing to logic (hey! it's a manmade machine!) etc etc. Something very similar to what you just did with Batman.

Or they might start posting low feats of Thor (haha, look! Thor couldn't even blahblahblah). That, as you may imagine, is NOT what I am doing. You posted a feat, I match it - either by matching logic, or the feat itself (in this case, the logic).

"_______lifted an extremely heavy weight once, and is also able to fight for extended periods of time. Therefore, a weight that is 1/9th of that would be easy-peasy for _______. ________ was able to fight for a loooong period of time, and so, 5 days is nothing."

Replace Thor with Batman, and that's why he's being used. That weight I quoted above? That's ~970kg. I'll round it up to 990kg, then divide by 9.

Do you think, based on scans, that Batman can bench 110kg solidly, for 3 days? Solidly, no food, water, rest, toilet breaks?

If not, why not? And no, saying 'he's human' means nothing, when he is blatantly shown as being able to do superhuman feats, multiple multiple times.

You keep using the word period, like you're an Albert, lol.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thor lifted The World Engine
Hulk has generated enough force to lift a planet size celestial like Exitar
Hercules has lifted the heavens
Sentry casually lifted the planet size celestial.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hyperion never experienced the explosion of two universes. If you want to use examples, then use truthful ones, or at minimum, use non debatable ones.

Hulk never supported the weight of a star. He was brought down by the weight. Even if he did, it's not the same as lifting it nor does it prove that Hulk can benchpress the Earth over 100,000 times.

How long did it take Hyperion to slow the planet down? Now calculate the acceleration to calculate the force. From there we can reasonably determine whether Hyperion can bench the Earth over 100,000 times.

Stop being retarded, If you look at the events that continued, when Proxima retrieved the spear, Hulk was back in an upright position. When they dropped the spear on him, he was on all fours. By the time they retrieved it, he had lifted it up.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not denying that various characters in the OP can lift/press earth-weight in general... But repping earth-weight for five days straight is another matter entirely.

given these characters lifted weights (or physical output?) and their endurance, Its fair enough to say that they can pull it off. fighting for days and months indicate their stamina/endurance

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not denying that various characters in the OP can lift/press earth-weight in general... But repping earth-weight for five days straight is another matter entirely.

Basically this. I'm not lowballing that the others could do it for one rep (hell, even 20 reps, easily, whatever).

But 5 days,constantly, whilst steadily getting weaker (fine for all those Carvers trying to troll and talk about dynamic strength, imagine they're magically FOR THIS THREAD) slowly being sapped of their strength by whatever means.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Stop being retarded, If you look at the events that continued, when Proxima retrieved the spear, Hulk was back in an upright position. When they dropped the spear on him, he was on all fours. By the time they retrieved it, he had lifted it up.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong! Nowhere does it show Hulk is upright BEFORE she is attempts to pull out the spear. Also, she has to release the weight BEFORE she can pull out the spear (otherwise she couldn't lift or move it).

Unless the unspecified star was super light (for a star). We know PM has superstrength as her punches with Cage was causing earthquakes.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thor lifted The World Engine
Hulk has generated enough force to lift a planet size celestial like Exitar
Hercules has lifted the heavens
Sentry casually lifted the planet size celestial.

Thor turned the world engine. Unquantifiable.
Scans of Hulk lifting a planet size Celestial? WBH can do it
Hercules feat is Unquantifiable due to the fact that if he dropped his hands then nothing would have happened.
Sentry lifted half but since the Celestial was forcefully decenting then he gets the nod.

Note: Sentry and Rogue were struggling. Therefore, doing that for 5 days is a stretch.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, everyone who isn't trolling knows what "bench pressing" means -- it's a pretty basic/self-explanatory exercise.

Weight down:

Weight up/out:

Everyone who isn't trolling also knows what "five days" means -- it's a pretty basic/self-explanatory measurement of time:

As such we can logically deduce, from the 'limited' information presented, that Superman was pressing the equivalent weight of earth non-stop...for 5 days straight...absent of any sunlight/nourishment.

That said, no one listed in the OP has lifting feats indicative of them being able to replicate Superman's feat, unless we're just going full head-canon here.

That's wrong, Look at the hand movement, rather than just up and down, the machine makes him angle the hands (like a V of sorts).

Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong! Nowhere does it show Hulk is upright BEFORE she is attempts to pull out the spear. Also, she has to release the weight BEFORE she can pull out the spear (otherwise she couldn't lift or move it).

when the star weight is thrown on him, It's when the spear (and the surrounding parts) embeds itself in Hulk:

Hulk is on his fours at this moment. Initially he was upright, but fell on his fours and stayed while Corvus slit his skin at the throat.:

However when Proxima retrieves the spear, you can still see the black vestiges and the spear part being on Hulk, showing that Proxima retrieved the spear from Hulk only when he is back up:

Stop trolling

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Unless the unspecified star was super light (for a star). We know PM has superstrength as her punches with Cage was causing earthquakes.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
That's wrong, Look at the hand movement, rather than just up and down, the machine makes him angle the hands (like a V of sorts).

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
when the star weight is thrown on him, It's when the spear (and the surrounding parts) embeds itself in Hulk:

Hulk is on his fours at this moment. Initially he was upright, but fell on his fours and stayed while Corvus slit his skin at the throat.:

However when Proxima retrieves the spear, you can still see the black vestiges and the spear part being on Hulk, showing that Proxima retrieved the spear from Hulk only when he is back up:

Stop trolling

So you are referring to when the spear first entered Hulk?
You know that Proxima can alter the density of the spear at will right?

Originally posted by h1a8
So you are referring to when the spear first entered Hulk?
You know that Proxima can alter the density of the spear at will right?

Yes, NOTE that Proxima altered the star weight after she threw the spear at Hulk. Corvus also stated that the Hulk was held down by a star, which was represented by the spear parts and black vestiges on him.
When Proxima retrieves it, those vestiges and spear part are still visible on the Hulk, who is upright by now. So Its CLEAR enough that he lifted the star weight before she retrieved it.
And for star weight, 330K earths (M= solar mass) is the solar mass of the sun. White Dwarfs are the smallest stars at 0.5M, so THAT'S 165K earths.
That said, Proxima DID state it was a supernova, which range from 5-10M, which is basically at minimum 330K x 5 Earth. Hulk effectively (based on what Proxima said) lifted a sun (which was ranging from a young star to a supernova), so to balance it out without going wild, It's left at 330K earths Hulk lifted.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, NOTE that Proxima altered the star weight after she threw the spear at Hulk. Corvus also stated that the Hulk was held down by a star, which was represented by the spear parts and black vestiges on him.
When Proxima retrieves it, those vestiges and spear part are still visible on the Hulk, who is upright by now. So Its CLEAR enough that he lifted the star weight before she retrieved it.
And for star weight, 330K earths (M= solar mass) is the solar mass of the sun. White Dwarfs are the smallest stars at 0.5M, so THAT'S 165K earths.
That said, Proxima DID state it was a supernova, which range from 5-10M, which is basically at minimum 330K x 5 Earth. Hulk effectively (based on what Proxima said) lifted a sun (which was ranging from a young star to a supernova), so to balance it out without going wild, It's left at 330K earths Hulk lifted.

2. Hulk was in upright position. Therefore the spear shouldn't make him bow down forward since the weight force is not forward but downward.