Kurse vs. Wonder Woman 84

Originally posted by Bentley
*Darth Thor throws "fighting to the best of their abilities" off the window*

Lmao. Wonder Woman used super speed in every fight in 84 while depowered, yet we're supposed to believe she doesn't use it in fights because she's conserving it.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are making stuff up. The only thing that is true is what the writers intent is.

Writers intention is not something anybody knows without movie commentary.

Originally posted by Bentley
*Darth Thor throws "fighting to the best of their abilities" off the window*

Not really, im just questioning the extent of those abilities. Given she doesnt use it against opponents stronger than herself. Or for extended periods.

Also cant throw fighting in character out of the window either.

I say unless we have explicit reasons to suspect super speed taxes Wonder Woman we shouldn't assume is a major issue. Super Speed is clearly an ability that consistently needs to be written down for plot purposes so not using it extensively is not even an uncommon happening

You know, I was watching this movie where a kid ran for a while and he wasn't even tired or breathing hard. therefore it's safe to assume he could run 1,000,000,000 miles without issue.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Writers intention is not something anybody knows without movie commentary.

Not really, im just questioning the extent of those abilities. Given she doesnt use it against opponents stronger than herself. Or for extended periods.

Also cant throw fighting in character out of the window either.

We clearly know what the writer intent ISNT. Therefore, you are making stuff up. Which is trolling.

Fiction inconsistency and Plot driven scenarios has nothing to do a smart character wanting to get hit on purpose (as you are suggesting).

And I stated multiple times that WW only needs to move a little faster than Kurse (which is many times under bullet speed). But her reflexes will always be superhuman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You know, I was watching this movie where a kid ran for a while and he wasn't even tired or breathing hard. therefore it's safe to assume he could run 1,000,000,000 miles without issue.

So you think WW is going to zip around in superspeed for hours running from Kurse?

Lmao

How about this? Kurse throws a punch, she ducks it and punches, kicks, or lassos Kurse. She ducks with a speed a little bit faster than Kurse. She takes the grenade and shove it somewhere kinky.

So Wonder Woman can use her super speed in extensive fights while heavily depowered, but she's not going to use it against a physically stronger but slow brick like Kurse?

The mental gymnastics in this thread are becoming ridiculous.

Trolling at its finest. Basically WW isn't going to bring her A game and fight to the best of her ability but rather bring her F game.

A character will always fight at their lowest level ever shown.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You know, I was watching this movie where a kid ran for a while and he wasn't even tired or breathing hard. therefore it's safe to assume he could run 1,000,000,000 miles without issue.

Ok, so let's play your troll game. How long a kid under those conditions actually last? Imagine WW non-stop attacking Kurse at those high speeds during a time relative to her that goes beyond bullet-timing.

This is no argument, this is an admission that you need to put Diana under kid level stamina so Kurse has a fighting chance

Originally posted by Bentley
I say unless we have explicit reasons to suspect super speed taxes Wonder Woman we shouldn't assume is a major issue. Super Speed is clearly an ability that consistently needs to be written down for plot purposes so not using it extensively is not even an uncommon happening

Its clearly an ability and if she only needed a dozen or so hits to beat Kurse, then this wouldnt be an issue.
But consistently writing super speed down for plot purposes does impact how we see her portrayed on screen Imo.

Flash (tv series) for instance gets hit sometimes, but hes almost always caught off guard. And theyve clearly portrayed the upper limits of his speed and its something that wont be an issue in the vast majority of forum fights (if any).

Originally posted by Bentley
Ok, so let's play your troll game. How long a kid under those conditions actually last? Imagine WW non-stop attacking Kurse at those high speeds during a time relative to her that goes beyond bullet-timing.

This is no argument, this is an admission that you need to put Diana under kid level stamina so Kurse has a fighting chance

I haven't commented on who I think wins, I've been focusing on the h1 like trolls that think their massively biased opinion trumps what the movies show.

H1 has actually been arguing that if the movies show something that disagrees with his opinion, then it doesn't count/matter.

Yeah neither of us actually said WW loses this fight.

Its h1s logic of “writers intention” thats BS.

WW has bullet speed perceptions. She can statue Kurse. This is a forum fight with no plot to make us forget WW doesn't have bullet speed reflexes.

End of thread

See, if h1 doesn't like it he just labels it plot and ignores it. ignoring feats that hurt your argument = troll.

Originally posted by Silent Master
See, if h1 doesn't like it he just labels it plot and ignores it. ignoring feats that hurt your argument = troll.

Everyone here knows that you are really the troll here.

I'm not the one saying that if a movie shows something that goes against my argument, it doesn't count. You are.

Originally posted by riv6672
My stand, same as it was before.

I didn’t say she couldn’t hurt Kurse, Ares834 said it could be argued, I just said sure, gotcha.

And the Bane thing is Carthage’s idea of a joke, which is only funny when it’s used in his threads.

Without factoring speed , Wonder woman can take multiple hits from Kurse without getting Ko'd .

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Fine.

If

Originally posted by h1a8
Any showings that contradict WW having bullet speed perceptions are irrelevant in a forum fight.

=

Originally posted by Silent Master
You are saying that if a movie shows something that goes against my argument, it doesn't count.

, then you are absolutely correct.

But if both statements are not equivalent then

Silent = Troll