Iron Man & Batman switch, Who does better?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Bruce really isn't. He's a psychologist, strategist and detective but far surpassed by MANY people in DC in science knowledge. Stop it

I will address this post. I can't remember the previous feats you described.

Yes, there are other characters who are smarter than him, morrow, terrific comes to mind. But I think you don't understand what Bruce is. He's like weaponized willpower. He's imo a lantern ring without a lantern or a ring. Just a man who will to do whatever for the sake of the mission. Tony isn't outperforming someone with that drive level. I honestly think Wayne could get killed and simply say no and will himself back to life and readers would be like well he IS Batman so it's logical. IM doesn't have that kind of fallacy.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I will address this post. I can't remember the previous feats you described.

Yes, there are other characters who are smarter than him, morrow, terrific comes to mind. But I think you don't understand what Bruce is. He's like weaponized willpower. He's imo a lantern ring without a lantern or a ring. Just a man who will to do whatever for the sake of the mission. Tony isn't outperforming someone with that drive level. I honestly think Wayne could get killed and simply say no and will himself back to life and readers would be like well he IS Batman so it's logical. IM doesn't have that kind of fallacy.

Plot armor doesn't exist on forums. And Idk why this scan was posted, he simply answered a question here it's like some kinda sphinx scene with extra effect.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman Annual #4 is a week in the life of Batman. Tony won't last.

Without prep, Batman takes on universal threats.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Plot armor doesn't exist on forums. And Idk why this scan was posted, he simply answered a question here it's like some kinda sphinx scene with extra effect.

We go by feats on this forum. So it's valid whether we want it to be or not. He looked a god in the face and said I'm Batman and the god backed down. It moots any Iron Man argument

Batman.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
We go by feats on this forum. So it's valid whether we want it to be or not. He looked a god in the face and said I'm Batman and the god backed down. It moots any Iron Man argument

So thinking the sentence "I'm Batman" holds some special power that makes things work out for him or trump card over high Dimensional beings law? But I'm the troll eh? 😂 KMC never fails to amuse me

All Bruce did was passed the test. The creature asked him why he should be.. AND he kinda put the answer in his sassyness, He helps protect his world from threat, he's a smart guy. If Tony can give a good reply too, he'd "defeat" the threat aswell 🤦

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So thinking the sentence "I'm Batman" holds some special power that makes things work out for him or trump card over high Dimensional beings law? But I'm the troll eh? 😂 KMC never fails to amuse me

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
All Bruce did was passed the test. The creature asked him why he should be.. AND he kinda put the answer in his sassyness, He helps protect his world from threat, he's a smart guy. If Tony can give a good reply too, he'd "defeat" the threat aswell 🤦

You can hand wave it away all you like but it happened on panel. Until Tony does something similar you argument is fail. You cannot call it trolling when it's backed up

batman doesn't prep he just randomly gets plot device

just recently he got black lantern ring in death metal

Originally posted by MrMind
batman doesn't prep he just randomly gets plot device

just recently he got black lantern ring in death metal

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Bruce really isn't. He's a psychologist, strategist and detective but far surpassed by MANY people in DC in science knowledge. Stop it

I think your missing the point. These things you list are exactly why Bruce would do better if they swapped positions. Vril Dox II isn't as smart as his father or his son Querl (both of whom are 12th level genius while he is only 10th), yet he has beaten both more than once because he is a far better psychologist and plays their ego against them. He uses it as a means to manipulate them into doing what he wants them to and falling into his traps. They both beat him in every area of science but he is a better strategist and psychologist. Similarly he has beaten other adversaries that are "smarter than him.

Could Bruce build the tech that Tony can? Absolutely not
Would Bruce beat the threats that Tony has faced? Absolutely yes.

The same cannot be said in reverse. Tony wouldn't solve the mysteries Bruce has. He would be able to replocate the detective skills to solve all the crimes. He also would have problems taking down some of Bruce's more insane enemies.

If they switched places in each other's universes Bruce could still defeat most if not all of the adversaries Tony has, without creating the tech he did but by strategy and psychology. Tony could not do everything that Bruce could to fill his role and the tech he could create wouldnt fill the void

Tony would attempt to solve the problems of Gotham by building a Joker Buster suit.

Anyway, this is in addition to the universal threat I posted above - same two weeks.

Sure, Tony could solve most of them - not saying he can't dive down and rescue trapped divers or whatnot. But everyday, day after day after day, whilst at the same time running a company and maintaining his playboy image?

In addition to this, Albert misses the point of the universal threat. When faced with the same issue, Tony would have attempted to fight it with his repulsor blasts.

Originally posted by beatboks
I think your missing the point. These things you list are exactly why Bruce would do better if they swapped positions. Vril Dox II isn't as smart as his father or his son Querl (both of whom are 12th level genius while he is only 10th), yet he has beaten both more than once because he is a far better psychologist and plays their ego against them. He uses it as a means to manipulate them into doing what he wants them to and falling into his traps. They both beat him in every area of science but he is a better strategist and psychologist. Similarly he has beaten other adversaries that are "smarter than him.

Could Bruce build the tech that Tony can? Absolutely not
Would Bruce beat the threats that Tony has faced? Absolutely yes.

The same cannot be said in reverse. Tony wouldn't solve the mysteries Bruce has. He would be able to replocate the detective skills to solve all the crimes. He also would have problems taking down some of Bruce's more insane enemies.

If they switched places in each other's universes Bruce could still defeat most if not all of the adversaries Tony has, without creating the tech he did but by strategy and psychology. Tony could not do everything that Bruce could to fill his role and the tech he could create wouldnt fill the void

Tony is spanking the majority of Bruce’s rogues off the top. He’s killing the super powered ones too, if necessary.
Bruce is getting smoked by most of Tony’s villains without prep. If he uses his head he could survive awhile.

https://i.imgur.com/p9iBgt3.png

Batman just stole himself a new Robin.

😂

"....and he never will"

Not surprised they didn't show the lower part of their bodies

Or Batman's hands.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But everyday, day after day after day, whilst at the same time running a company and maintaining his playboy image?

He used to pretend to be his own bodyguard and an Avenger before he revealed his identity. For most of his superhero career, in fact.

So living two lives is not anything new to him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyway, this is in addition to the universal threat I posted above - same two weeks.

Sure, Tony could solve most of them - not saying he can't dive down and rescue trapped divers or whatnot. But everyday, day after day after day, whilst at the same time running a company and maintaining his playboy image?

In addition to this, Albert misses the point of the universal threat. When faced with the same issue, Tony would have attempted to fight it with his repulsor blasts.

tony also would have been scanning energy signature's so he can create a counter pulse or something that would hurt it. At the same time he's not retarded either and has figured out mysteries too like the whole paragon issue way back in the first storyline in the IM director of shield book.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He used to pretend to be his own bodyguard and an Avenger before he revealed his identity. For most of his superhero career, in fact.

So living two lives is not anything new to him.

Oh yeah, I'm not saying he can't do SOME aspects of it.

But it's doing it everyday. It's the workload of a street level hero, coupled with the workload of a herald (when Batman shows up for the JLA big events).

Tony's role in the Avengers is to be one of their big guns and is rolled out for the main events. The Punisher has to stick around to solve crimes and stop muggings etc. It's going out on patrol every night, and at the same time being the playboy billionaire, and at the same time having to fight Kalibak.