Iron Man & Batman switch, Who does better?

Tony is an engineer by nature so his first instinct is to build to solve his problems. He can likely easily transition become a detective because it’s still problem solving and he has the bat cave in his head.
Most of Batman’s powered villains are getting SMOKED.
The more cerebral ones don’t have the advantage of years of experience with Tony like they have with Bruce. They can’t play on his need to instill fear or his absolute refusal to kill.
Once they realized Tony would smoke their asses, the dynamic changes.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not sleeping on him. Tony just doesn't face the same caliber of threats as Bruce. His rogues pale in comparison and despite being a tech genius, he doesn't think his way out of situations as much as you'd think he would. His solo runs have been abysmal and imo he still hasn't recovered from the Otto owning. Wayne wouldn't take an L like that.

Wayne would've caught that L too. At the end of the day, a functional retard in fendi lipstick has been mentally working Batman to the only logical conclusion between them and he keeps putting dude back in a proven and very escapable hospital. Batman is only as smart as the story allows but he consistently does dumb shit.

Tony would kill them the moment they escaped Arkham again. Then he’d rebuild Arkham to make it escape proof Insane villains would get smoked. Tony doesn’t have a no kill rule, emotional hang ups about his parents death , doesn’t have 5 Robins and an old man to worry about either.

also everyone he associates with can use his tech or has their own suit. Let’s not act like Tony hasn’t used suits as decoys or drones before.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yeah, I'm not saying he can't do SOME aspects of it.

But it's doing it everyday. It's the workload of a street level hero, coupled with the workload of a herald (when Batman shows up for the JLA big events).

Tony's role in the Avengers is to be one of their big guns and is rolled out for the main events. The Punisher has to stick around to solve crimes and stop muggings etc. It's going out on patrol every night, and at the same time being the playboy billionaire, and at the same time having to fight Kalibak.

Tony could easily make multiple suits to patrol or have Rhodey or Pepper( assuming they come with him) to do patrols or stand in for him. He could create a LMD to go to meetings or some shit.

Just to clear some stuff up:

Arkham isn't some revolving door airy-fairy mental hospital. They DO actually make it pretty advanced (like Tony would):

And they use New God tech - which apparently the Riddler can defeat on the fly, no prep. I mean, argue that it is PIS all you want - but it happens. Moreover, let's not pretend it's just Batman on his own here - he has the entire Bat family plus Leslie Thompson etc etc. Yet Gotham is still a handful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh yeah, I'm not saying he can't do SOME aspects of it.

But it's doing it everyday. It's the workload of a street level hero, coupled with the workload of a herald (when Batman shows up for the JLA big events).

Tony's role in the Avengers is to be one of their big guns and is rolled out for the main events. The Punisher has to stick around to solve crimes and stop muggings etc. It's going out on patrol every night, and at the same time being the playboy billionaire, and at the same time having to fight Kalibak.

Tony was doing it everyday.

From stopping losers like Stiltman (lol) to fighting powerhouses such as Count Nefaria. Working on several teams, for United Nations, for SHIELD, all while doing his solo adventures, too.

Saving dogs from being run over, too.

Batman is not as special as you would like him to be. He shines in his own universe, but that's because most heroes there are lazy bums 😉

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just to clear some stuff up:

Arkham isn't some revolving door airy-fairy mental hospital. They DO actually make it pretty advanced (like Tony would):

And they use New God tech - which apparently the Riddler can defeat on the fly, no prep. I mean, argue that it is PIS all you want - but it happens. Moreover, let's not pretend it's just Batman on his own here - he has the entire Bat family plus Leslie Thompson etc etc. Yet Gotham is still a handful.

😂 and yet it’s been escaped more than once.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tony was doing it everyday.

From stopping losers like Stiltman (lol) to fighting powerhouses such as Count Nefaria. Working on several teams, for United Nations, for SHIELD, all while doing his solo adventures, too.

Saving dogs from being run over, too.

Batman is not as special as you would like him to be. He shines in his own universe, but that's because most heroes there are lazy bums 😉

Lol, let's be honest, Iron Man hasn't been nor ever will have as many appearances as Batman, even across the various teams.

But your points still miss out the vital patrol aspect, of Tony not only doing ALL that you say, but ALSO doing nightly patrols to stop alleyway muggings etc.

Now, you could argue that he just creates drones to do all that. But that shows he CAN'T do what Bats does.

Not to mention a lot of Batman's adventures take place during the night, when Tony is fast asleep lol.

@Albert: EXACTLY. Glad you see my point 😂 we are in agreement, you are welcome.

An additional scan:

Tech so advanced, even New Gods can't crack it. And New Gods are hundreds of years ahead of Earth. Yet the Riddler cracks it in 11 seconds.

Yeah, Tony relying on tech would get him in trouble lol.

You acting like Tony wouldn't have Gotham like Batman had it in kingdom come but with more lethality. Massive surveillance , Iron-drones everywhere it'd really change Gotham to the core probably creating something like a New Gotham and an Old Gotham. New Gotham a technological marvel while Old Gotham the outer remnants of Gotham clinging to it's past, crime ridden pushed out of the main part of Gotham that Tony really focuses on.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You acting like Tony wouldn't have Gotham like Batman had it in kingdom come but with more lethality. Massive surveillance , Iron-drones everywhere it'd really change Gotham to the core probably creating something like a New Gotham and an Old Gotham. New Gotham a technological marvel while Old Gotham the outer remnants of Gotham clinging to it's past, crime ridden pushed out of the main part of Gotham that Tony really focuses on.

Because he's never done this for NYC...

But at least he didn't have his continuity being reset several times.

I like the way you're repping Bats on this board, but you're one of the least knowledgeable posters we've got when it comes to Stark.

You're only keeping this thread going because Alberto is here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because he's never done this for NYC...

How many super powered Heroes populate NYC?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But your points still miss out the vital patrol aspect, of Tony not only doing ALL that you say, but ALSO doing nightly patrols to stop alleyway muggings etc.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But at least he didn't have his continuity being reset several times.

I like the way you're repping Bats on this board, but you're one of the least knowledgeable posters we've got when it comes to Stark.

You're only keeping this thread going because Alberto is here.

I have read enough to know that when there is a threat that Tony needs solving, he builds an armour for it and goes in guns blazing. My point is that it doesn't solve anything. There are some things you can't just build a machine to solve your issues for.

But sure, if you have anything to counter my series of scans, go for it. I can 100% guarantee you can't, because Tony isn't that kind of hero, and doesn't have as many appearances as Bats. Wolverine, now, sure, but not Tony. Tony doesn't have the stamina to continually do what Batman does.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How many super powered Heroes populate NYC?

Even better. All those heroes, and NYC still has crime 😂 what losers, if we use your logic.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't think anyone would argue that Batman's stamina and overall shape is clearly beyond Tony. Also Batman's detective skills are far beyond Tony. The thing is Tony works his way around this with his tech (drones etc) while Batman goes out on patrol, that doesn't even automatically mean Batman is dumb for doing this, it's just the character, like Spider-Man.

Agreed.

My point was that there is a limit to how much tech can cover up for the shortcomings of Tony vs Batman. Using drones etc is fine and all - until you get into what Albert is proposing, which is a complete police state with shoot to kill drones in one part of Gotham and a lawless wild west in the other.

My thing is You act like he's never done this before he's done it to San Francisco in the past but San Francisco is no Gotham city. Tony would handle Gotham differently he'd honestly go heavy handed with his tech to try and clean up Gotham whether they like it nor not:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed.

My point was that there is a limit to how much tech can cover up for the shortcomings of Tony vs Batman. Using drones etc is fine and all - until you get into what Albert is proposing, which is a complete police state with shoot to kill drones in one part of Gotham and a lawless wild west in the other.

why would it be auto kill for street crime. Tony had gone DAYS without rest to solve a problem before so why bring up stamina?
He’s running through most of the villains because they can’t attack or approach him in the same manner as Bruce. Bruce had an almost personal relationship with most of his rogues gallery that opens him up in ways they do to Tony.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because he's never done this for NYC...

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
My thing is You act like he's never done this before he's done it to San Francisco in the past but San Francisco is no Gotham city. Tony would handle Gotham differently he'd honestly go heavy handed with his tech to try and clean up Gotham whether they like it nor not:

Why you always post useless miniatures instead of actual scans...

You're doing more harm than good to Marvel's side.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Why you always post useless miniatures instead of actual scans...

You're doing more harm than good to Marvel's side.

Originally posted by Parmaniac

Imagizer link doesn't work when copied.

But yeah, I was able to find it via reverse image search, it's not about that.

It's that Alberto keeps posting scans that can't be read, trolling on purpose.