Knull vs Gorr; Who used the Necrosword All Black better?

Started by Stoic2 pages

We'd have to break it down by which of them possessed it the longest, and which of them slew the most notable of characters with All Black. That's how I'd go about it at any rate. I'd like to say Knull, because I'd like to believe that Knull is more powerful than a being that was transformed into what they were because of a fragment of his power.

Knull is a slayer of Celestials and Pantheons, who in the latter days was brought low by an all out attack by those Gods. While Gorr slew Pantheons, and was brought low by 3 different versions of Thor.

Again, my mind registers Knull as being superior to Gorr in just about every way.

So the Anvil was right to a point. This confirms Knull has an All-Black Necrosword. Is it the same one during god butcher? *shrug*

https://weirdsciencemarvelcomics.com/2021/02/12/king-in-black-4-preview/

I'd say....yes, and that it's the same

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, no.

It's just Knull saying that Thor has tasted All Black before, now he gets to be killed by its creator.

We all know the Necrosword has hurt Thor before. I was asking if there had been unambiguous confirmation.

Looks like there isn't.

My second post here - I was only ever after confirmation. Looks like Al got rescued.

Gorr.

**** Knull. **** Symbiotes, worst thing to come out of the house of bad ideas known as Spider-Man.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My second post here - I was only ever after confirmation. Looks like Al got rescued.
prior to this, there was no indication that knull had the all black back. It was just some dumb guess by dumberto.

Something like water comes from rain clouds. 😂

Originally posted by Diesldude
prior to this, there was no indication that knull had the all black back. It was just some dumb guess by dumberto.

Something like water comes from rain clouds. 😂


There was some proof prior to this. Check out KiB Valkyries.
Actually technically SS Black had him using an All-Black post losing it in God Butcher. That comic was over a year and a half ago.

😂 What a dumbass. Diesl stupidity never fails to impress

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
There was some proof prior to this. Check out KiB Valkyries.
Actually technically SS Black had him using an All-Black post losing it in God Butcher. That comic was over a year and a half ago.

I thought the SS was prior to him losing the all black. There was no definite proof that it was the all back in the first KiB Valkyries and in the second issue it was mentioned in a historical story without and proper time settings. It was a dumb guess by dumberto he saw a black sword with knull and took his hand outta his mouth, started clapping and yelling “oh the necrosword” into his speech to text software.

Naw. Knull lost the sword by that time. SS Black happens at a period in Knull's history where he already started using symbiotes. He only started using symbiotes after he lost All-Black.
Thats y im still confused as to how and why he had another and calling it the same exact name.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Naw. Knull lost the sword by that time. SS Black happens at a period in Knull's history where he already started using symbiotes. He only started using symbiotes after he lost All-Black.
Thats y im still confused as to how and why he had another and calling it the same exact name.

I have no horse in this race and have no problems accepting that it was the all black. I wanted proof and IMO until this preview there was none. I prefer that it is the all black because if it is, then it wasn’t something created on the fly that was able to impale and kill Thor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
There was some proof prior to this. Check out KiB Valkyries.
Actually technically SS Black had him using an All-Black post losing it in God Butcher. That comic was over a year and a half ago.
I covered this when the issue came out.

I'm confused how Knull could have the All-black. This seems to be a very recent add-on. Everything before this made it clear he didn't.

After he lost the All-black, he was basically powerless for centuries, until he built up his symbiote power. He invested all of his energy into it. It was then lost in time in the far future. It's literally impossible for him to have it unless he made a new one, which I guess is possible...?

As for mastery of the weapon, Gorr had the All-black for a lot longer than Knull had it, and his bond was a lot deeper. He wasn't just a wielder of the sword, he became the sword, and through God Blood, made it like a gazillion times more powerful. I think Knull would lose trying to control the sword. Gorr's consciousness merged with it. But who knows, he owned the Void.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Not sure bout manhandling. He struck him yes, but he has a bit of the odnfrce. He's(standard thor) ko'd gorr before in one occasion and chopped his arm off in another.

Standard Thor knocked out present-day Gorr with a massive lightning blast:
https://thebrotherhoodofevilgeeks.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/thor6.jpg

But standard Thor hit one dragon with enough power to defeat Knull and break his link to his entire army:

It was Thor's enchanted axe that chopped off Gorr's arm. It'd probably do the same to Knull.

The fact that the Necro-sword was already powerful enough to kill a Celestial, and slaughter millions of Gods explains why Gorr was able to so effortlessly kill entire pantheons even in the past.

And Gorr at his base had absorbed Knull's accumulated power at that point, and every drop of God blood made him more powerful. It puts Thor's feats during the God Butcher arc into perspective, and makes his feats way more impressive. This origin of the All-black lends more legitimacy to the story because it was relatively self-contained (I.e. we didn't see Gorr killing Galactus and Eternity or something).

This confirms what is clearly expressed and shown between the lines and basically stated in the scene when KIB stabs Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm confused how Knull could have the All-black. This seems to be a very recent add-on. Everything before this made it clear he didn't.

After he lost the All-black, he was basically powerless for centuries, until he built up his symbiote power. He invested all of his energy into it. It was then lost in time in the far future. It's literally impossible for him to have it unless he made a new one, which I guess is possible...?

As for mastery of the weapon, Gorr had the All-black for a lot longer than Knull had it, and his bond was a lot deeper. He wasn't just a wielder of the sword, he became the sword, and through God Blood, made it like a gazillion times more powerful. I think Knull would lose trying to control the sword. Gorr's consciousness merged with it. But who knows, he owned the Void.

Agreed.