Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
uhhhh, No. Thawne isnt the same thawne who gets stabbed by Thomas Wayne. He literally mistook Thomas Wayne as Bruce
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Tales-from-the-Dark-Multiverse-Flashpoint/Full?id=178800#11
But in main continuity, Thawne knew Flashpoint Batman is Thomas not bruce
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Batman-2016/Issue-84?id=164348#8
Leave it up to the Superman nuthuggers to twist context.
Context is key. Thawne is a Temporal Paradox. There are a endless number of himself. It's how he keeps coming back whenever he dies. All of his different selves branch off from him.
And each version is in a different point in time, many of then scattered throughout the Multiverse. And they study each other's histories. They are effectively the same entity but at varying points in history, throughout the Multiverse.
It's not like these are all separate beings with different powers. These are all Thawne. And due to him being a Paradox there is no original Thawne.
The concept is a bit complicated if you haven't been keeping up with this whole thing from a while back, but essentially all of his alternate selves are connected, despite where they may be throughout history or the Multiverse. They can all pick up where the other left off, it's how he effectively never dies for good. And his alternates are travelling the Mutiverse to study the Speed Force, Hypertime, alternate universes, etc.
In fact, before Thawne, I'm Tales, was pulled out of tje Timestream he had on his regular suit, proof enough that it was one of his Alters, not an entirely separate entity:
It wasnt until he was pulled into this new version of Flashpoint that his suit changed, but he still was the same guy.
Stick to deep throating Superman cause you obviously don't know what you're talking about kid 😂 it's embarrassing
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilSo you agree that an alternate Thawne affected a non canon Superman? You admitted Flashpoint(Whether its Dark Multiverse or not) is a alternate universe and Flashpoint Thawne was an alternate self of thawne.
Leave it up to the Superman nuthuggers to twist context.Context is key. Thawne is a Temporal Paradox. There are a endless number of himself. It's how he keeps coming back whenever he dies. All of his different selves branch off from him.
And each version is in a different point in time, many of then scattered throughout the Multiverse. And they study each other's histories. They are effectively the same entity but at varying points in history, throughout the Multiverse.
It's not like these are all separate beings with different powers. These are all Thawne. And due to him being a Paradox there is no original Thawne.
The concept is a bit complicated if you haven't been keeping up with this whole thing from a while back, but essentially all of his alternate selves are connected, despite where they may be throughout history or the Multiverse. They can all pick up where the other left off, it's how he effectively never dies for good. And his alternates are travelling the Mutiverse to study the Speed Force, Hypertime, alternate universes, etc.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilSo he is an alternate thawne and he only changed an alternate universe with alternate characters. Good to know
In fact, before Thawne, I'm Tales, was pulled out of tje Timestream he had on his regular suit, proof enough that it was one of his Alters, not an entirely separate entity:It wasnt until he was pulled into this new version of Flashpoint that his suit changed, but he still was the same guy.
Stick to deep throating Superman cause you obviously don't know what you're talking about kid 😂 it's embarrassing
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you agree that an alternate Thawne affected a non canon Superman? You admitted Flashpoint(Whether its Dark Multiverse or not) is a alternate universe and Flashpoint Thawne was an alternate self of thawne.
This was an alternate Clark, but that doesn't change the fact that he can still alter original Clark's history. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This was an alternate Clark, but that doesn't change the fact that he can still alter original Clark's history. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Time Trapper Tried.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It was alternate universe/non canon Alberto 🙂
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Also this is my original post/pointAnd it seems you already agreed that the scan you posted is non canon then I guess my work is done here
No, Time Trapper tried to erase him. That isnt the samr as changing events in history.
And the feat is of a canon ability. There is no argument that can refute this. Thawne has altered history to his favor before.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilI mean Time Trapper tried to erase Superman by changing history. Time Trapper even stated Superman is blind spot in time(Bare in mind Time Trapper himself literally is a living timeline)
No, Time Trapper tried to erase him. That isnt the samr as changing events in history.And the feat is of a canon ability. There is no argument that can refute this. Thawne has altered history to his favor before.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I mean Time Trapper tried to erase Superman by changing history. Time Trapper even stated Superman is blind spot in time(Bare in mind Time Trapper himself literally is a living timeline)
"my blind spot in time. If I cant erase you from history"
https://imgur.com/a/bHERv
And Time Trapper himself is a living timeline
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Final-Crisis-Legion-of-Three-Worlds/Issue-5?id=77088#10
But that isnt what I was arguing. Like I said before, You used a non canon scan and I pointed it out. And you later agreed the scan is non canon. So I guess Ive already won this argument.
😂 Except It is canon. Everything in DC is canon. I'm gonna need you to actually read the comics, lmao. Canon doesn't just mean in the main universe. Its whatever the writers acknowledge as actually happened.
It applies, nothing you have nothing that refutes what DC confirmed.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah, everything has been blended together. Alternate Earths, Universes, Timelines, etc. It's all canon now.Everything is canon
"All history, all stories will be remembered and set once and for all"
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Except It is canon. Everything in DC is canon. I'm gonna need you to actually read the comics, lmao.
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This was [B]an alternate Clark , but that doesn't change the fact that he can still alter original Clark's history. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise [/B]
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Haha, proof?Because Elseworlds is alternate universes/timelines and it's all canon now.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Besides, we have precedence. JLA/Avengers or any crossovers are technically canon, but forum rules supercede that.
😂 OH so forum rules overrule what DC have to say now eh?
Yeah so you have ZERO evidence that refutes everything in DC being canon besides some battleboard rules as if it has any relevance/importance to what DC have to say, concession accepted.
You're terrible at this kid, next time bring actual in comic evidence to dispute my argument, this was too easy.