Originally posted by Badabing
Fit Bada is about to hand out wedgies to nerds in this thread.Fat Bada is about to steal the lunch money of nerds in this thread.
https://www.deviantart.com/johannenson/art/Buford-gives-Phineas-a-wedgie-850894902
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, if Vader starts off atop the wall, and watches the army slowly march in from afar, it's a different story.In that case he could destroy their ladder tech, trebuchets, and bombardiers before they ever got close enough to attack, and solo droves of the army before they ever reached him(TK aside, just imagine what saber throws could do to the army.)
tl;dr
Vader could win in that scenario, as he would finally have the high ground. 👆
I'll do you one better.
Vader is safe inside the keep, and just using his Force powers without even being physically present on the walls 👆
Originally posted by deathslash
Athens only way that this could be a challenge for Vader is if he was only allowed to use his lightsaber and no force powers. As it stands, he decimates.
By challenge, do you mean impossible?
Pretty sure even a lightsaber isn't cutting down 10-20 thousand things before being swamped.
Originally posted by cdtm
By challenge, do you mean impossible?Pretty sure even a lightsaber isn't cutting down 10-20 thousand things before being swamped.
It probably could, actually.
Cutting things like flesh with a lightsaber is pretty easy. The saber itself weighs next to nothing (so it doesn't exactly need a lot of concentration/will),
Vader doesn't need to get within arrow range like the Elves/humans did. He's managed to exert his powers through space (when he choked his commander over vid screen).
So at this point (t=32seconds):
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His blade can already be spinning through their ranks at head height (and thanks to them all being uniformly bred, they're all roughly the same height). No fatigue.
Or he could just cause a massive landslide and kill a good portion of them as they enter that choke point.
Originally posted by cdtmno, I mean challenge as in "could potentially be too much for him". Between his skill, precognition, and literal laser sword, he could potentially funnel them into narrow hallways and other choke points to mitigate their numerical advantage. Then it just becomes a question of whether Vader can do that for several hours.
By challenge, do you mean impossible?Pretty sure even a lightsaber isn't cutting down 10-20 thousand things before being swamped.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Just imagine what Vader could do to the army if he spammed saber throws like this, for example:
It probably could, actually.Cutting things like flesh with a lightsaber is pretty easy. The saber itself weighs next to nothing (so it doesn't exactly need a lot of concentration/will),
Vader doesn't need to get within arrow range like the Elves/humans did. He's managed to exert his powers through space (when he choked his commander over vid screen).
So at this point (t=32seconds):
78IJdhvY1zg?t=32
His blade can already be spinning through their ranks at head height (and thanks to them all being uniformly bred, they're all roughly the same height). No fatigue.
Or he could just cause a massive landslide and kill a good portion of them as they enter that choke point.
Originally posted by Galan007
[b]Part III: Lightsaber Skill & Noteworthy BattlesUses a saber-throw to drop a speeding X-Wing out of the sky:
https://i.ibb.co/M5mcjCz/throw7.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vd6ZNy0/throw8.jpg*And for a point of reference, an X-Wing's in-atmosphere flight speed is 652mph:
https://i.ibb.co/7tr3GqY/throw9.jpg
...So that's one helluva throw. [/B]
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Vader doesn't need to get within arrow range like the Elves/humans did.
Crossbows don't use arrows. They use bolts (also known as quarrels).
They are known for superior range and power, but they take more time to reload.
It'd be actually interesting to examine Vader's saber throw feats closely. It all started with that lacklustre throw from RotJ, but saber throws have evolved a lot since then, obv.
edit: I see Galan couldn't stop himself and already posted one, that was quick.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Crossbows don't use arrows. They use bolts (also known as quarrels).They are known for superior range and power, but they take more time to reload.
It'd be actually interesting to examine Vader's saber throw feats closely. It all started with that lacklustre throw from RotJ, but saber throws have evolved a lot since then, obv.
edit: I see Galan couldn't stop himself and already posted one, that was quick.
The elves and humans didn't use crossbows, but bows and arrows. I know fully what I said 😠
My point was the alliance waited until they were in range before they started massing volleys of arrows. Whereas Vader has shown Force control over much larger ranges.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It probably could, actually.Cutting things like flesh with a lightsaber is pretty easy. The saber itself weighs next to nothing (so it doesn't exactly need a lot of concentration/will),
Vader doesn't need to get within arrow range like the Elves/humans did. He's managed to exert his powers through space (when he choked his commander over vid screen).
So at this point (t=32seconds):
78IJdhvY1zg?t=32
His blade can already be spinning through their ranks at head height (and thanks to them all being uniformly bred, they're all roughly the same height). No fatigue.
Or he could just cause a massive landslide and kill a good portion of them as they enter that choke point.
Yeah, but deathslash said "no force powers".
Which should include precognition or stamina/speed enhancements and such, let alone tk.
More or less the scenerio comic book Darth Vader is currently going through.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's Vader Year One. Later on, he was choking Prince Xizor from across the galaxy.
Yeah, range shouldn't be a problem, especially if we include all feats from both continuites, as cdtm wanted.
He still needs to maintain his concentration long enough to slaughter at least 10,000 superhuman opponents, though. That could be a problem, considering how easily Force users tend to get distracted and punked.
10,000 Chewies all eager to give Vader the rosebutt treatment again.
