I don't think Vision loses, but I don't know if he'll be able to win via mind stone blast. I'm not sure how potent it is, I forget the most durable person/thing it took out.
Originally posted by h1a8
He wouldn't be able to harm Nam. Also Nam can win with a single blow.That particular Vision can obviously control which part of his body is intangible. He can't touch the food if his fingers were intangible.
We have several problems.
1. Whether that is Canon to the movies.
2. Whether Vision can harm Nam assuming 1. is true
3. How vision fights. If you want to impose how you would attempt to fight as Vision then I can do the same for Nam.
What a weird thing to say. Why wouldn't it be canon it literally continues storylines from the movies.
Originally posted by h1a8
He wouldn't be able to harm Nam. Also Nam can win with a single blow.That particular Vision can obviously control which part of his body is intangible. He can't touch the food if his fingers were intangible.
We have several problems.
1. Whether that is Canon to the movies.
2. Whether Vision can harm Nam assuming 1. is true
3. How vision fights. If you want to impose how you would attempt to fight as Vision then I can do the same for Nam.
Vision has already fought in a similar manner in AoU. And yes, WandaVision is cannon to the movies.
Anything else?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Vision has already fought in a similar manner in AoU. And yes, WandaVision is cannon to the movies.Anything else?
That clip was in the 50's and black in white. How could that be canon to 2021?
Prove that he fought in a similar manner. Post a clip.
What about my other points? Those are way more important than these minor ones.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah weird rant by h1a8.Especially since the feat in question (phasing his arm through someone or something), hes already done in the films, as a form of attack no less.
If he did it in the movie then post that clip. Not something from a show that is questionable in the same universe.
But that was a minor point. The big point everyone is avoiding.
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think Vision loses, but I don't know if he'll be able to win via mind stone blast. I'm not sure how potent it is, I forget the most durable person/thing it took out.What a weird thing to say. Why wouldn't it be canon it literally continues storylines from the movies.
Black and white. 1950's. Really?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Interesting how once again h1 is trying to nerf only one side of a match and it just so happens to be a Marvel character.
Vision got his ass handed to him several times by beings less than Nam.
Nam is faster and very durable against energy attacks. Vision doesnt have any great durability feats against large blunt force. A good hit will be the beginning of the end of the fight.
You heard it here first, folks. H1 has just proven he hasn't even watched WandaVision and has no idea what the f*ck any of us are talking about.
Wanda is using her reality warping to control an entire town, reanimate Vision or at least create a version of him as her husband, and each episode is in the vein of a different tv show like I Love Lucy. Seriously, man, this is lazy even for you.
Originally posted by KingD19
You heard it here first, folks. H1 has just proven he hasn't even watched WandaVision and has no idea what the f*ck any of us are talking about.Wanda is using her reality warping to control an entire town, reanimate Vision or at least create a version of him as her husband, and each episode is in the vein of a different tv show like I Love Lucy. Seriously, man, this is lazy even for you.
So basically its vision that is warped by reality of Wanda? Sounds like not standard vision then.
Lets assume vision can do that though. I concede that point. Its no biggie. Wandavision Vision = Regular vision. My other point is far more important.
Originally posted by h1a8
If he did it in the movie then post that clip. Not something from a show that is questionable in the same universe.
Happened in the fight when Avengers are fighting all the Ultronbots together. Its been posted before.
Point is you claimed he couldnt do something that hes done in both the tv show and the movies. And frankly your wasting everyones time just not conceding the point.
Originally posted by h1a8
That clip was in the 50's and black in white. How could that be canon to 2021?Prove that he fought in a similar manner. Post a clip.
What about my other points? Those are way more important than these minor ones.
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That didn't happen in the 50's. You should watch the show first before commenting here further so you can avoid making yourself look stupid.
Originally posted by h1a8
Black and white. 1950's. Really?
It's not literally the 1950s. Even if you have never seen the show you would know this if you had even just read a summary about the show.
For example if you go to the wiki this is what it says under premise:
"Set three weeks after the events of Avengers: Endgame (2019),[1] Wanda Maximoff and Vision are living an idyllic suburban life in the town of Westview, New Jersey, trying to conceal their true natures. As they begin to enter new decades and encounter television tropes, the couple suspects that things are not as they seem."
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Happened in the fight when Avengers are fighting all the Ultronbots together. Its been posted before.Point is you claimed he couldnt do something that hes done in both the tv show and the movies. And frankly your wasting everyones time just not conceding the point.
Originally posted by FrothByte
That didn't happen in the 50's. You should watch the show first before commenting here further so you can avoid making yourself look stupid.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Even if it did happen in the 50s, why would that not make it canon to 2021?h1a8 is losing his marbles.
The only reason to question it is that we still dont know whats going on with Visions return. Although it does seem now that
Spoiler:
Wanda has legitimately resurrected him.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's not literally the 1950s. Even if you have never seen the show you would know this if you had even just read a summary about the show.For example if you go to the wiki this is what it says under premise:
"Set three weeks after the events of Avengers: Endgame (2019),[1] Wanda Maximoff and Vision are living an idyllic suburban life in the town of Westview, New Jersey, trying to conceal their true natures. As they begin to enter new decades and encounter television tropes, the couple suspects that things are not as they seem."
Originally posted by h1a8
Geez pick on the point that is basically meaningless.So basically its vision that is warped by reality of Wanda? Sounds like not standard vision then.
Lets assume vision can do that though. I concede that point. Its no biggie. Wandavision Vision = Regular vision. My other point is far more important.
It is Vision, Wanda just resurrected him. Why fight this so hard?
It seems that people are so sensitive to whether shows being Canon to the movies that they fail to see that winning that point ( a minor one) doesn't win the debate. I conceded the point yesterday (because it doesn't address the more important issue), yet people are still harping on it (like it really matters here now and it proves that vision will win).
Vision still loses nonetheless for the other reasons I gave.
Originally posted by h1a8
That clip was in the 50's and black in white. How could that be canon to 2021?Prove that he fought in a similar manner. Post a clip.
What about my other points? Those are way more important than these minor ones.
If he did it in the movie then post that clip. Not something from a show that is questionable in the same universe.
But that was a minor point. The big point everyone is avoiding.
1:30 mark and 2:57 mark.
Vision can most certainly damage Nam from the inside.
Its time for you to accept the loss and move on.