MCU Vision vs. Nam-Ek

Originally posted by FrothByte
Prove that he can blitz Vision considering Vision's latest speed feats.
Prove that he can "finish off" someone as durable as Vision.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'd also like him to prove and explain how Nam-Ek's durability is somehow able to stop Vision from phasing and tearing up his innards.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Blitzing him? Thats funny given Vision has the far better speed feats.

What are visions speed feats that you think are greater?

Originally posted by Silent Master
To quote h1's logic

Show Nam actually blitzing someone.

Originally posted by Silent Master

Capability proof
He is Kryptonian and possess super speed
He blitzed Superman to prevent him from blitzing Faora

Propensity proof
He above feat on Superman

I noticed you didn't post any examples of Nam blitzing anyone

Originally posted by h1a8
What is visions latest speed feats?
10,000 tons of force is overkill I think.

Vision has no strength feats remotely enough to even phase a Kryptonian. Nam can exert over 10,000 tons with his hands. He's a physical peer to Superman.

Nam is Kryptonian and blitzed Superman before he could blitz Faora.

What are visions speed feats that you think are greater?

Where are you getting this 10,000 tons of force from?

Originally posted by h1a8

Vision cannot damage Nam from the inside. Nam is too durable. And Nam isn't going to just sit there in one spot.

😆 So you honestly believe Nam-Eks internal organs and so forth are to durable for the Vision to damage? Good lord. No wonder nobody takes you seriously.

Originally posted by h1a8

Vision has no strength feats remotely enough to even phase a Kryptonian. Nam can exert over 10,000 tons with his hands. He's a physical peer to Superman.

Do you even have a clue as to the Visions powerset? You act as though the Vision needs to be powerful enough to pierce Nam-Eks exterior epidermis when he doesnt need to. Do you understand that the Vision can become intangible and phase into Nam-Ek? I dont think you do.

This is a spite thread. There is no way for Nam-Ek to win.

Originally posted by tkitna
Do you even have a clue as to the Visions powerset? You act as though the Vision needs to be powerful enough to pierce Nam-Eks exterior epidermis when he doesnt need to. Do you understand that the Vision can become intangible and phase into Nam-Ek? I dont think you do.

This is a spite thread. There is no way for Nam-Ek to win.

Phasing through Nam would amount to nothing. Vision is not strong enough to do anything to the inside of Nam.
Nam on the other hand can knick Vision silly with a single blow.

Originally posted by tkitna
😆 So you honestly believe Nam-Eks internal organs and so forth are to durable for the Vision to damage? Good lord. No wonder nobody takes you seriously.

Of course. He is aircraft bulletproof. His hands had over10,000 tons of force exerted on him without damage. He has Superman's durability.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting this 10,000 tons of force from?

I posted the science and calculation behind Nams train throw a year ago. I can repost it if you like.

Phasing through Nam would amount to nothing. Vision is not strong enough to do anything to the inside of Nam.
Nam on the other hand can knick Vision silly with a single blow.

Originally posted by h1a8
Phasing through Nam would amount to nothing. Vision is not strong enough to do anything to the inside of Nam.

Prove that Nam-Eks, or any kryptonian for that matter, organs and innards could not be harmed by a being of the Visions strength. You are basically saying that if Nam-Ek was laying on a table with his chest opened up, the Vision would not be strong enough to move or damage any of his organs. Do you even realize how ridiculous that makes you sound?

Originally posted by h1a8
Phasing through Nam would amount to nothing. Vision is not strong enough to do anything to the inside of Nam.

Prove Nam is immune to phasing attacks.

Originally posted by h1a8
Phasing through Nam would amount to nothing. Vision is not strong enough to do anything to the inside of Nam.
Nam on the other hand can knick Vision silly with a single blow.

Of course. He is aircraft bulletproof. His hands had over10,000 tons of force exerted on him without damage. He has Superman's durability.

I posted the science and calculation behind Nams train throw a year ago. I can repost it if you like.

What, you think throwing a train car is more impressive than knocking down Giantman who's easily capable of throwing around busses and trucks like they were toys and strong enough to take out a leviathan with one punch?

Originally posted by FrothByte
What, you think throwing a train car is more impressive than knocking down Giantman who's easily capable of throwing around busses and trucks like they were toys and strong enough to take out a leviathan with one punch?

Yup. A magnitude more impressive.
10,000 tons remember?

For reference, it only takes a few pounds of force to push a human off balance when they are distracted.

Also, buses weigh no more than 10 tons. He kicked one (not throw it).

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove Nam is immune to phasing attacks.

Nam can be phased through. But his internals cant be damaged by someone of visions strength.

Originally posted by tkitna
Prove that Nam-Eks, or any kryptonian for that matter, organs and innards could not be harmed by a being of the Visions strength. You are basically saying that if Nam-Ek was laying on a table with his chest opened up, the Vision would not be strong enough to move or damage any of his organs. Do you even realize how ridiculous that makes you sound?

Nam has superhuman durability. He is able to resist aircraft bullets (some of the most powerful bullets), punches from Superman, hv from Superman, and over 10,000 tons of force on his hands.

I provided my facts now you have to prove that Vision has the strength capable to damage his organs.

Originally posted by h1a8

I provided my facts now you have to prove that Vision has the strength capable to damage his organs.

You’re just stating your opinions and acting as if they’re facts.
They’re not.

So...no.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nam can be phased through. But his internals cant be damaged by someone of visions strength

Phasing damage isn't based off strength, it's based off durability. Now prove Nam's internals are far more durable than Vision and thus are immune to phase attacks

Originally posted by h1a8

Nam has superhuman durability. He is able to resist aircraft bullets (some of the most powerful bullets), punches from Superman, hv from Superman, and over 10,000 tons of force on his hands.

I provided my facts now you have to prove that Vision has the strength capable to damage his organs.

The only thiing that you proved was that you're a moron. What you just stated has nothing to do with Nam-Eks internal organs. His exterior epidermis is that durable, but thats a non factor to a character that bypasses that while phasing.

If somebody punched you in the chest, its probable that you would survive. If your rib cage was cracked open and your heart was exposed and somebody punched it, you would be dead. I know you realize this, but you are so desperate for Nam-Ek to somehow win due to your obvious DC bias, that you are playing even dumber than usual.

Concede already and save some face. There is no possible way for Nam-Ek to win.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nam is Kryptonian and blitzed Superman before he could blitz Faora.

What are visions speed feats that you think are greater?

I dont recall any blitzing by Nam.

Vision (in WandaVision) runs at superhuman speeds. Faster than Faora. And certainly faster than Nam.

So if you were being consistent in your arguments, then you should be arguing that Vision blitzes Nam.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Where are you getting this 10,000 tons of force from?

His own head calculations as usual.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I dont recall any blitzing by Nam.

Vision (in WandaVision) runs at superhuman speeds. Faster than Faora. And certainly faster than Nam.

So if you were being consistent in your arguments, then you should be arguing that Vision blitzes Nam.

His own head calculations as usual.

Nam blitzed Superman when he tried to blitz Faora.
Nam is Kryptonian and has superhuman speed by default.

Prove that Vision runs faster than Faora. Stating it isn't proof.
Vision can not harm Nam based of his strength to Nam's durability.

Originally posted by tkitna
The only thiing that you proved was that you're a moron. What you just stated has nothing to do with Nam-Eks internal organs. His exterior epidermis is that durable, but thats a non factor to a character that bypasses that while phasing.

If somebody punched you in the chest, its probable that you would survive. If your rib cage was cracked open and your heart was exposed and somebody punched it, you would be dead. I know you realize this, but you are so desperate for Nam-Ek to somehow win due to your obvious DC bias, that you are playing even dumber than usual.

Concede already and save some face. There is no possible way for Nam-Ek to win.

No? Then you must provide proof (not me) to how much force can someone insides take if their hands can take over 10,000 tons of force, tank blows from Superman without damage, and tank full powered HV from Superman without damage.

You made the claim, now prove it. No speculation or opinions. Just facts. Do the math.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Phasing damage isn't based off strength, it's based off durability. Now prove Nam's internals are far more durable than Vision and thus are immune to phase attacks

Why isn't it?
Vision is shown phasing his hand through something and then using his hand to move objects around. That's if we go by the movies, not the comics.

Originally posted by riv6672
You haven’t proved anything though.

You’re just stating your opinions and acting as if they’re facts.
They’re not.

So...no.

I provided facts on Nam's durability. It's up to you guys to now prove that Vision can harm his internals.

You provided your opinion.