Originally posted by carver9what exactly is "average" galactus? He isn't particularly knows for having a stable power level. To answer you question no. The amp didn't appear to have made him more powerful. Tell ya why, Galactus is above the likes of Thor. Agreed? Agreed 👍. But Thor gotta push right, he has the OF apparently so he's probably close to Daddy's level (even though Dad isn't dead and hasn't been performing great himself for a few years now) anyway, he's Thor plus. I think he's about equal to the old OF Thor back from a few years ago. So GALACTUS comes crashing into Asgard weakened and asked Thor for help. Thor suits up gets a pc upgrade and at that moment or maybe slightly before, he was more powerful than Galactus. Imo. Move on a few issues later and we see first hand how far he's risen and Galactus has fallen. Even though "he's the most powerful he's ever been" he got easily handled by a mere skyfather (reminds me of his run in with CW Zeus);. There's that skuttlebut thing that's embarrassing, even if it was a surprise attack he shouldn't have flinched and it's his overall cowing in front of both Thor and BW. He just seemed weak to me. Maybe it was fear I dunno but he wasn't exactly portrayed as someone all powerful or even remotely powerful. But yes sure he did get an amp but honestly I'd take an earlier version maybe annihilation, or the one who beat abraxus or sorcerer supreme galactus, not this guy.
Do you think this version of Galactus is weaker or stronger than the average Galactus we know? Yes or no?
Sp he's not powerful because Thor beat him? An amped Thor. So we are just going to throw Galactus amping off of multiple planets that we know makes him stronger and we are going to ignore him outright saying he got more powerful. Another question, Galactus amped off of 5 planets to fight and defeat Celestials he was losing to before. Hope you agree with this. With that said, what's the difference between Galactus absorbing planets against the Celestials vs him absorbing planets to fight black Winter? If absorbing planets made him weaker against Black Winted 😂 why did he keep absorbing planets? This argument is so dumb. Dark is debating this because he is trying to prove a lame point on previous arguments I've made. You actually believe the stuff you are typing.
Thor has the Thor Force not the Odin Force. He is the Lord of Asgard, not Odin. So Sky Father Thor was then imbued with the Power Cosmic. Let's look at it like this. Norrin Radd, a powerless Zenn La native who was as strong as Earth born natives became imbued with the Power Cosmic, magnifying everything about him to the point that he becomes a High Herald.
Let's apply that to Sky Father Thor who at base is able to battle Galactus for a prolonged period of time. So let's say that he is futher augmented with the Power Cosmic as was the case, he then becomes far more powerful than his base Sky Father power level to the point that he'd tower over Galactus that had recently fed on a planet.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thor has the Thor Force not the Odin Force. He is the Lord of Asgard, not Odin. So Sky Father Thor was then imbued with the Power Cosmic. Let's look at it like this. Norrin Radd, a powerless Zenn La native who was as strong as Earth born natives became imbued with the Power Cosmic, magnifying everything about him to the point that he becomes a High Herald.Let's apply that to Sky Father Thor who at base is able to battle Galactus for a prolonged period of time. So let's say that he is futher augmented with the Power Cosmic as was the case, he then becomes far more powerful than his base Sky Father power level to the point that he'd tower over Galactus that had recently fed on a planet.
Yea no. I was talking historically. I still haven't seen an explanation to his newfound might because simply being king never granted anyone in Asgard additional power. Also Thor should not be able to battle GALACTUS easily. Skyfather or not.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea no. I was talking historically. I still haven't seen an explanation to his newfound might because simply being king never granted anyone in Asgard additional power. Also Thor should not be able to battle GALACTUS easily. Skyfather or not.
Thor inherited the Odinforce. Thorforce is a rebranding, essentially.
And stole Galactus's power, somehow.
Originally posted by cdtm
Thor inherited the Odinforce. Thorforce is a rebranding, essentially.And stole Galactus's power, somehow.
Yes, and a couple of issues prior to their battle (Galactus vs Sky Father Thor) it states that he inherited everything that is afforded to a Lord of Asgard, which means that he was indeed more powerful than his base self.
Originally posted by carver9why do you keep bringing the car into this?
Lol... yep. They are saying the amp made him weaker. Basically saying Galactus ate all of those planets to make himself weaker against Black Winter even though Galactus said he is more powerful than he's ever been. Not only that. They are saying that Galactus lied when he said he is more powerful than he's ever been but they listened to a liar that said the chains that Superman broke is unbreakable and pulled stars. Soooooo, they are accepting statements from a compulsive liar but they are discrediting Galactus himself that said he feels more powerful than ever, lol. THEN, they are using skuttlebucket as a low showing and a rock being thrown at Thor as an average but they ignored Antimonitor getting knocked out by a car explosion with the ending results being World Forger and his brothers becoming weakened and again, this is from a car explosion. 1+1=hypocrites
1)The car had engine that can cross a universe.
2) The brothers were trying to split up because the anti monitor had taken control and was absorbing their powers.
3) they no longer had the same goals
4)they took shots from perpetua when they had the same goal and didn’t split apart but a car did?
I know we explained this to you already but you still continue with this lowballing. Why? All it shows is that you’re comprehension is pretty bad and you need everything spelled out for you. And then explained again and again. I know you’re not trolling because you’re trying to make a point about something that exists only in your mind.
Honestly I don't see y galactus keeps getting put in threads when was the last time he actually won a fight? He gets beaten monthly. Reed owned him, Thor killed him solo, Strange, Ultimates remade his whole being, didn't Gambit beat an alt version? He's jobbed way to hard. He's like the most manageable threat in Marvel.
Originally posted by Stoicyup like Odin inherited the Odin force, Thor inherited it and calls it the Thor force. Where was Odin when Thor became King?
Yes, and a couple of issues prior to their battle (Galactus vs Sky Father Thor) it states that he inherited everything that is afforded to a Lord of Asgard, which means that he was indeed more powerful than his base self.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
what exactly is "average" galactus? He isn't particularly knows for having a stable power level. To answer you question no. The amp didn't appear to have made him more powerful. Tell ya why, Galactus is above the likes of Thor. Agreed? Agreed 👍. But Thor gotta push right, he has the OF apparently so he's probably close to Daddy's level (even though Dad isn't dead and hasn't been performing great himself for a few years now) anyway, he's Thor plus. I think he's about equal to the old OF Thor back from a few years ago. So GALACTUS comes crashing into Asgard weakened and asked Thor for help. Thor suits up gets a pc upgrade and at that moment or maybe slightly before, he was more powerful than Galactus. Imo. Move on a few issues later and we see first hand how far he's risen and Galactus has fallen. Even though "he's the most powerful he's ever been" he got easily handled by a mere skyfather (reminds me of his run in with CW Zeus);. There's that skuttlebut thing that's embarrassing, even if it was a surprise attack he shouldn't have flinched and it's his overall cowing in front of both Thor and BW. He just seemed weak to me. Maybe it was fear I dunno but he wasn't exactly portrayed as someone all powerful or even remotely powerful. But yes sure he did get an amp but honestly I'd take an earlier version maybe annihilation, or the one who beat abraxus or sorcerer supreme galactus, not this guy.
Don't forget Cates wrote this Galactus as being unable to get past Surfer's mental defenses. Impressive for Surfer, yes, but his power LITERALLY COMES FROM G.
Anyway.
Originally posted by carver9
.LI'm not saying anything. What I'm telling you is, we don't debate based off of powerset. There is a hand full of people that debate like that, you, H1, and whoever else and they have 90% of the forum looking pass their post. Hard to debate against a guy who thinks Surfer can beat Superman 10/10 due to his powerset when again, KMC doesn't debate like they. We don't make up how a character fight unless there's hard evidence backing you up. Do you have that?