Income and wealth inequality is fair.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Between the retarded OP who attacked a position few people have irl and as far as I'm aware nobody has ever expressed here and your retarded post harping about a slippery slope that does not exist in a failed gotcha attempt there seems to be a high concentration of retarded posts in this thread. I has hoped the mass exodus that happened here would alleviate this somewhat but it seems I was wrong.

Why do you suck the smegma from the shriveled cocks of multi-billionaires my friend?

It wasn't an attempt at sophistry, I wanted an honest response. I think alot of the reasons a 1000 dollar minimum wage would be unwanted is also true of a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage.

I also think lumping all billionaires together is a mistake. If someone provides value to a enough people to earn a billion dollars then they deserve it. I don't like when billionaires are on welfare, and I think they only use tax holes because taxation exists.
I think taxation is immoral.

Originally posted by Klaw
To add on to my point.

If I were in charge, I would stop Corporate Welfare, and close all the tax loopholes the wealthy use.

I would abolish the minimum wage and have workers and owners negotiate the wages prior to the business opening.

That to me is the most fair thing to do.

Get the Gov out of the wage business.

Nice

Originally posted by Klaw
Sweden seems to be doing fine without a minimum wage.

They also have the political juggernaut 'The Swedish Trade Union Confederation', which consist of about 15% of the Swedish population looking out for the rights of the little guy.

If you expect a business like McDonalds in America to just do the right thing instead of looking out for its bottom line, ie making the most money it possibly can, then I have a magical elixir to sell you, it gives you perfect health and boost your intelligence.

Originally posted by Robtard
They also have the political juggernaut 'The Swedish Trade Union Confederation', which consist of about 15% of the Swedish population looking out for the rights of the little guy.

If you expect a business like McDonalds in America to just do the right thing instead of looking out for its bottom line, ie making the most money it possibly can, then I have a magical elixir to sell you, it gives you perfect health and boost your intelligence.

I support unions, so corporations can go F off if they don't like their workers unionizing.

Originally posted by Robtard
They also have the political juggernaut 'The Swedish Trade Union Confederation', which consist of about 15% of the Swedish population looking out for the rights of the little guy.

If you expect a business like McDonalds in America to just do the right thing instead of looking out for its bottom line, ie making the most money it possibly can, then I have a magical elixir to sell you, it gives you perfect health and boost your intelligence.

And that political juggernaut is butt f**king sweden in a big way

https://mises.org/library/how-welfare-state-corrupted-sweden

https://mises.org/wire/welfare-state-tearing-sweden-apart

Originally posted by ilikecomics
And that political juggernaut is butt f**king sweden in a big way

https://mises.org/library/how-welfare-state-corrupted-sweden

https://mises.org/wire/welfare-state-tearing-sweden-apart

What does that have to do with 'The Swedish Trade Union Confederation'?

Originally posted by Klaw
I support unions, so corporations can go F off if they don't like their workers unionizing.

I do too.

Though Unions, especially if they become too big, can end up being corrupt and screwing over the workers they're supposed to be protecting. But it's best take Unions on a case-by-case basis and not blanket them all under a single shit-blanket.

At the end of the day, I want people, not the Government or Corporations to have so much power.

That's one reason why I support unions and abolishing the minimum wage.

Originally posted by Robtard
What does that have to do with 'The Swedish Trade Union Confederation'?

It mentions the trade union in the 2006 per byland article by name.

The second article articulates how that interventionism turned out ten years later.

Originally posted by Klaw
At the end of the day, I want people, not the Government or Corporations to have so much power.

That's one reason why I support unions and abolishing the minimum wage.

Unions are actually bad

The story of harrison bergeron nails why trying to promote equity is not only undesirable, but immoral.

It's also a great short story, outside of the political point I'm trying to make by referencing it

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Unions are actually bad

I disagree.

People pooling their labor together is no different than people pooling their capital together and bargaining with it.

Originally posted by Klaw
I disagree.

People pooling their labor together is no different than people pooling their capital together and bargaining with it.

If you care about liberty, I promise you don't like labor unions.

Read this and see what you think

https://mises.org/library/union-myth

Originally posted by Klaw
At the end of the day, I want people, not the Government or Corporations to have so much power.

That's one reason why I support unions and abolishing the minimum wage.

What do you think corporations and governments are, besides organized groups of people?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What do you think corporations and governments are, besides organized groups of people?

I'm well aware they're organized groups of people.

But people (workers) should have the power over their wages via pooling their labor and bargaining like corporations do via their capital.

And as for the Government.

The Government is the enemy of workers and small businesses.

The lockdowns have made big businesses rake in even more money while small businesses have suffered.

Originally posted by Klaw
The lockdowns have made big businesses rake in even more money while small businesses have suffered.

Not really. Lockdown helped those businesses which were built for lockdowns (e.g. Amazon), or those who could adapt (deliveries for fast food).

But many big businesses have suffered because of lockdown. You only have to look as far as the travel sector, to see how much theyve not raked in this last year.

What helped big businesses over smaller ones was the fed (under Trump) pumping money into the stock market instead of giving out larger and fairer relief packages.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not really. Lockdown helped those businesses which were built for lockdowns (e.g. Amazon), or those who could adapt (deliveries for fast food).

But many big businesses have suffered because of lockdown. You only have to look as far as the travel sector, to see how much theyve not raked in this last year.

What helped big businesses over smaller ones was the fed (under Trump) pumping money into the stock market instead of giving out larger and fairer relief packages.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
It wasn't an attempt at sophistry, I wanted an honest response. I think alot of the reasons a 1000 dollar minimum wage would be unwanted is also true of a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage.

I also think lumping all billionaires together is a mistake. If someone provides value to a enough people to earn a billion dollars then they deserve it. I don't like when billionaires are on welfare, and I think they only use tax holes because taxation exists.
I think taxation is immoral.

I would guess ilikecomics supports sales taxes.

Originally posted by Newjak
I have a question for you. So without some form of taxation are how we supposed to fund our society?

You think value wouldn't be created if the government disappeared ?

I believe in zero taxation. It is theft.