Magik vs Zauriel

Originally posted by leonidas
actually it just asks if the flaming sword would beat the soul sword, and the above example, with the sword backed by the presence's power would do so, but that is literally the ONLY time his sword showed that level of power, so, in general, the answer to the thread imo is no, the soul sword would win this more often than not. /shrug

But my reply specifically said that version /countershrug

so i replied to the actual thread, and you made up your own stips. clearly you lose. 👆

Originally posted by Charles ASX
the feats of both versions count.

@Leo: what other feats of n52 Zauriel would you reference?

well, getting smacked around by ps, but if it's strictly sword feats i think that may have been the only appearance of it that i'm aware of. i didn't see the edit to the thread so i would revise my answer--i'd say there isn't enough evidence to comment on the 52 sword, and stick with my opinion on his more normal, non-52 version of the flaming sword. why? because his punishment of stranger wasn't really HIS punishment, so no way to know if the 52 sword would have the same level of power in a different situation where is he IS enacting the presence's will.

i'll go on record though and say i really liked zauriel as character (not so much the 52 version) and really hoped he would be more powerful than he was shown to be.

Originally posted by leonidas
i didn't see the edit to the thread

Also:

Originally posted by leonidas
and stick with my opinion on his more normal, non-52 version of the flaming sword.

Originally posted by Charles ASX
the feats of both versions count.

so i replied to the actual thread, and you made up your own stips. clearly you lose. 👆

😛

Originally posted by leonidas
that sword would very likely kill the phantom stranger, or at the least do him some serious harm. if you are magical, or use magic against it, that sword can f you up. badly. it effortlessly overcame cyttorak's spell and he is at least skyfather level, presumably. more impressive by far that sword took out archenemy and the source of its power. i'd take magik and that sword against nearly anyone who uses magic. the hell lords certainly want no part of her, and beings like mephisto and dormammu have some pretty impressive feats in their day. even outside limbo that sword will wipe out magic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also:

so i replied to the actual thread, and you made up your own stips. clearly you lose. 👆

😛

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Cyttorak is a *****.

meh, debatable. all those weird splinter realm rulers in marvel have highs and lows.

While feats from both versions are allowed, would anyone kindly give me feats from just Pre-FLASHPOINT? I've hardly read any of him outside Morrison's JLA run and he hardly did anything there.

Lol that's basically it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol that's basically it.

The two biggest feats I saw from him were outside Morrison's run. Although I think they're the only things I saw outside it(if you don't count a couple graphic novels during that period but not by Morrison).

Originally posted by Delta1938
The two biggest feats I saw from him were outside Morrison's run. Although I think they're the only things I saw outside it(if you don't count a couple graphic novels during that period but not by Morrison).

pre-52 zauriel and n52 zauriel are completely two different people unless you are color blind

Originally posted by MrMind
pre-52 zauriel and n52 zauriel are completely two different people unless you are color blind

My earlier question was specifically about Pre-52, so....?