Trumps Chinese flu comments and Incels lead to violence against Asian women.

Started by StyleTime3 pages

Originally posted by Klaw
If you wanted to kill women, a massage parlor would be a good place to find them.

Race has nothing to do with it, it seems.


He could find sex workers at many places though, not just massage parlours. Hell, you can make those arrangements online if you want.

He went to THREE different places in different cities, all with Asian women. One is literally called Young’s Asian Massage. In America at least, sexual massage parlours are stereotypically associated with Asian women too. It's a racist stereotype of course, but it likely colored his perception.

I'd say their race was certainly connected to this. He seemed fixated on Asian women during his spree, probably blaming them for his sexual urges.

Originally posted by StyleTime
He could find sex workers at many places though, not just massage parlours. Hell, you can make those arrangements online if you want.

He went to THREE different places in different cities, all with Asian women. One is literally called Young’s Asian Massage. In America at least, sexual massage parlours are stereotypically associated with Asian women too. It's a racist stereotype of course, but it likely colored his perception.

I'd say their race was certainly connected to this. He seemed fixated on Asian women during his spree, probably blaming them for his sexual urges.

Exactly! 👆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Exactly! 👆

Like I told him, that could come down to where he chose to get his fetish from.

Get sex from massage parlors, and you'll rampage at massage parlors.

If I use Pornhub for my porn, and about 90% of porn videos are banned, why would I complain about Xvideo or Xhamster, when I don't view porn there?

Originally posted by cdtm
Like I told him, that could come down to where he chose to get his fetish from.

Get sex from massage parlors, and you'll rampage at massage parlors.

If I use Pornhub for my porn, and about 90% of porn videos are banned, why would I complain about Xvideo or Xhamster, when I don't view porn there?

There is also an American stereotype of Asian Massage parlors having the happy ending services.

So maybe he connected the two in his brain.

The sad part is that crimes and instances of bigotry towards Asian Americans have been going up since the Pandemic started

Originally posted by cdtm
If I use Pornhub for my porn, and about 90% of porn videos are banned, why would I complain about Xvideo or Xhamster, when I don't view porn there?

People are dead, what are you talking about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard

Nothing to do with this case and other problems surrounding affirmative action coalescing with the idea that if you're rich you're evil ?

To me this problem could be fixed if people took iq more serious, like how mainstream psychology does.

Originally posted by Newjak
There is also an American stereotype of Asian Massage parlors having the happy ending services.

So maybe he connected the two in his brain.

The sad part is that crimes and instances of bigotry towards Asian Americans have been going up since the Pandemic started

No, that isn't a steeotype. Massage parlors employ a lot of asians, and "happy endings" are a thing.

Originally posted by Quincy
People are dead, what are you talking about

Who denied people are dead?

Originally posted by cdtm
No, that isn't a steeotype. Massage parlors employ a lot of asians, and "happy endings" are a thing.
That doesn't make it any less of a stereotype to say Asian Parlors offer Happy Endings as services :/

EDIT:

In fact the way you laid it out shows the stereotype

Got to say I called the groing Incel problem

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/mar/03/incel-movement-terror-threat-canada

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/13/976379494/manosphere-world-of-incels-exposed-in-laura-bates-book-men-who-hate-women

I got attacked here for highlighting it in the past, it but...

My predictions are all taking place, sadly...

https://news.berkeley.edu/2021/03/19/georgia-attack-reflects-misogyny-racism-embedded-in-mainstream-society/

Originally posted by Klaw
If you wanted to kill women, a massage parlor would be a good place to find them.

Race has nothing to do with it, it seems.

My massage therapist is a man. Argument debunked.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why did he specifically target Asian parlours though? Could be a coincidence I guess, but is at least suspect that race may also have played into his agenda.

Then again could be that he's tempted more by Asian women, which wouldn't be racist.

Less than 2% of the population of the U.S. is AAPI. So for all of the victims to be Asian women, he had to be targeting them specifically.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v._Harvard

Nothing to do with this case and other problems surrounding affirmative action coalescing with the idea that if you're rich you're evil ?

To me this problem could be fixed if people took iq more serious, like how mainstream psychology does.

IQ it’s malleable both in a person and over the generations. Social circumstances and culture contribute a lot to a good result so it would be somewhat misguided to put too much stock into IQ. It also doesn’t measure a lot of aspects that may be valuable and we would be missing out on if we took it as our main determinant. That is similar to using GPA or SAT Score, they don’t give a particularly good picture of a student.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
My massage therapist is a man. Argument debunked.

I'd rather have a woman massage me. 😉

@ artol

IQ is mostly stable over your life. IQ is 50-80 percent genetic.
Gpa is not like that, and they detangled the sat from iq in the 90s

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
My massage therapist is a man. Argument debunked.

Yeah, but no one argued all massage therapists work at shady rub and tug spas.

Or even that they're all women. Or asian. 😛

Originally posted by Klaw
If you wanted to kill women, a massage parlor would be a good place to find them.

Race has nothing to do with it, it seems.

Or he knew to say that the race of the women he targeted had nothing to do with the murders and it was coincidence they're all Asian, as that would ultimately help him when it came to being convicted and sentencing if so.

His lawyer could have also advised him to say the race/racism had nothing to do with it, for the same reasons.

Originally posted by StyleTime
He could find sex workers at many places though, not just massage parlours. Hell, you can make those arrangements online if you want.

He went to THREE different places in different cities, all with Asian women. One is literally called Young’s Asian Massage. In America at least, sexual massage parlours are stereotypically associated with Asian women too. It's a racist stereotype of course, but it likely colored his perception.

I'd say their race was certainly connected to this. He seemed fixated on Asian women during his spree, probably blaming them for his sexual urges.

Well then he definitely targeted them based on race.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well then he definitely targeted them based on race.

Two of the deaths weren't asian though.

Fact is, both myself and style are making a pretty big assumption. I'm assuming he does his sex shopping in one place, and that one place happened to employ a lot of asian women.

While he's assuming the guys a general purpose deviant, and could shop wherever he wants and chose the place with asian women.

For my own part, I can only say I'm the latter in my general purpose consumer habits. I'll shop for games on Steam, deliveries on Amazon, do my grocery shopping at a single big chain, do my social drinking at a single brewery or two, and I won't really shop around much.

Originally posted by cdtm
Like I told him, that could come down to where he chose to get his fetish from.

Get sex from massage parlors, and you'll rampage at massage parlors.

If I use Pornhub for my porn, and about 90% of porn videos are banned, why would I complain about Xvideo or Xhamster, when I don't view porn there?


And as I told you--you have an extremely narrow understanding of hate. The idea his possible sex addiction means these acts were random is absurd. The victims' identities aren't just some neat coincidence, like a coin landing on its side.

Western culture's fetishization of Asian female bodies is common knowledge, and well documented in scholarly and layman circles. They're often presented as willing sexual servants, especially for white men, all across our media. This is where the "me love you long time" caricature comes from, and these images become internalized so that you don't consciously realize they influence you. You add that to his already distorted views on women, and it's not hard to see how he wound up here. While I don't think seeking out sex workers is necessarily bad, he blatantly believes it's these womens' duty not to tempt him. The burden of regulating his sexual impulses are placed upon the victims, as their existence is close to sin in his eyes.

This IS a form of hate. It's certainly an intersectional moment, but he literally desires to eradicate an entire class of people.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, that isn't a steeotype. Massage parlors employ a lot of asians, and "happy endings" are a thing.

The stereotype is that any Asian women at a massage parlor is a sex worker. It's untrue, and harmful.
Originally posted by cdtm
Two of the deaths weren't asian though.

Fact is, both myself and style are making a pretty big assumption. I'm assuming he does his sex shopping in one place, and that one place happened to employ a lot of asian women.

While he's assuming the guys a general purpose deviant, and could shop wherever he wants and chose the place with asian women.

For my own part, I can only say I'm the latter in my general purpose consumer habits. I'll shop for games on Steam, deliveries on Amazon, do my grocery shopping at a single big chain, do my social drinking at a single brewery or two, and I won't really shop around much.


No, I'm pointing out the reality of what happened. You're doing an Olympic level mental gymnastics routine to avoid it.

The reality is that he traveled to entirely different cities to hit Asian massage parlors. You making some cute abstractions about gaming don't really change that.

As more details emerge, maybe the picture gets more complicated; however, sex addiction doesn't somehow negate an act of hate.