Gun control in the US

Originally posted by Klaw
Leftists think banning guns will make gun crime go away.

Just like Prohibition stopped people from drinking alcohol.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
banning guns does make gun crime go away in most countries.

What the non gun based violent crimes like in those countries ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
What the non gun based violent crimes like in those countries ?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
which are far less likely to end in fatality or be a massacre.

So, I have to assume by your answer that there is far more violet crime in countries without, but guns do more tissue damage and can kill more efficiently.

Is this an accurate representation of your argument ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
So, I have to assume by your answer that there is far more violet crime in countries without, but guns do more tissue damage and can kill more efficiently.

Is this an accurate representation of your argument ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Or how the FDA prevented half the country from being fat.
Or how the DMV prevented accidents.
Or how the epa saved the environment.
Or how the more nationalized healthcare comes the faster the lines get.

Ad nauseum.

In the world you live in there's no external forces acting on those entities.

In the real world, however...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Guns also make high school massacres etc much easier.

So what country, that has banned guns, would you use to forward your argument ?

What would your strongest example be ?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
In the world you live in there's no external forces acting on those entities.

In the real world, however...

Why is the go to standard for debating libertarians to either:

1.) Say the matter is very complex
2.) Say it's human nature
3.) Claim the libertarian doesn't participate in empiricism the same way everyone else does

Hint: all three are not arguments 👆 👆

Originally posted by ilikecomics
So what country, that has banned guns, would you use to forward your argument ?

What would your strongest example be ?

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Why is the go to standard for debating libertarians to either:

1.) Say the matter is very complex
2.) Say it's human nature
3.) Claim the libertarian doesn't participate in empiricism the same way everyone else does

Hint: all three are not arguments 👆 👆

Thankfully I never used any of those arguments.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Britain is a good start.

Okay, now I gotta figure out the why. Thank you.

Someone else posted a video on that, so I'll have a good place to start (think it was Jaden)

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Thankfully I never used any of those arguments.

You said the world I live in, as if it's not the same one everyone else is in, which would be bad anti libertarian argument number 3.

Unless you simply mean from my pov, but that would just be telling me I'm a libertarian and most other people aren't which isnt anything I didn't already know.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
What the non gun based violent crimes like in those countries ?

I think they also generally have a lower violent crime per capita rate as well.

Originally posted by Newjak
In most European countries with stricter gun control laws they have a lower murder per captia rate than the U.S.

I think they also generally have a lower violent crime per capita rate as well.

But who is commuting those crimes?

It's easy to compare statistics between countries with very different cultures. Israel has pretty liberal gun laws, yet their murder rates are nothing compared to Washington DC, with very strict gun laws.

Originally posted by cdtm
But who is commuting those crimes?

It's easy to compare statistics between countries with very different cultures. Israel has pretty liberal gun laws, yet their murder rates are nothing compared to Washington DC, with very strict gun laws.

According to a Department of Homeland Security memo, the man who killed nine people in San José, California on Wednesday had previously been detained by U.S. Customs officers.

The shooter, Samuel James Cassidy, possessed "books about terrorism and fear and manifestos," when Customs and Border Protection detained him in 2016 after a trip to the Philippines.

The gunman, a VTA employe armed with two semiautomatic handguns, fatally shot nine coworkers inside two buildings around the time of a morning shift change before taking his own life in front of responding law enforcement officers, authorities have said.

The 9mm handguns he had appear to be legal, Smith said, though his 11 high-capacity magazines—each with 12 rounds—are prohibited in California. Authorities do not yet know how he obtained the weaponry.

The sheriff said he also appeared to have set a timer or slow-burn device to set his home on fire, and authorities also found explosives there. The fire was reported minutes after the first 9-1-1 calls came in from the rail facility.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
According to a Department of Homeland Security memo, the man who killed nine people in San José, California on Wednesday had previously been detained by U.S. Customs officers.

The shooter, Samuel James Cassidy, possessed "books about terrorism and fear and manifestos," when Customs and Border Protection detained him in 2016 after a trip to the Philippines.

The gunman, a VTA employe armed with two semiautomatic handguns, fatally shot nine coworkers inside two buildings around the time of a morning shift change before taking his own life in front of responding law enforcement officers, authorities have said.

The 9mm handguns he had appear to be legal, Smith said, though his 11 high-capacity magazines—each with 12 rounds—are prohibited in California. Authorities do not yet know how he obtained the weaponry.

The sheriff said he also appeared to have set a timer or slow-burn device to set his home on fire, and authorities also found explosives there. The fire was reported minutes after the first 9-1-1 calls came in from the rail facility.

Gun capacity is easily modified, unfortunately.

You can 3D print guns; I bet the Government is going to start regulating 3D printers now.

they already regulated and even prohibited scanning and printing of paper u.s. money, 20+ years ago. why should it suddenly be forbidden to simply regulate the printing of firearms so they are least have a receipt generated? because you were told to be outraged over it? or is it because you need access to an untraceable firearm? how do you even have skin in this game? bored?