Wonder Woman and Aquaman vs Annihilators

Started by Sin I AM4 pages

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Aquaman should be using Poseidon’s trident ever since Drowned Earth.

I honestly think he could get a good amount of wins on either Bill or Ronan. Depending on how he fights. Here’s a thread I’ve been working on for him that I think is pretty inline with the whole continuity due to Rebirth.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/the-king-of-the-seas-composite-respect-thread-2184086/

Really? He's went down a lot after Mera took his crown and he was an outcast again shenanigans. Bill has been raped a bit himself by Blake and Surtur and Thor but those were because they were more op. His damage soak against Surtur was really impressive.

Plus I'd take Surturs sword/Skuttlebut over Poseidon's Trident anyday

Ronan & quasar easily beat Arthur

Ss, glads, and Bill vs diana??

Spite thread

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Really? He's went down a lot after Mera took his crown and he was an outcast again shenanigans. Bill has been raped a bit himself by Blake and Surtur and Thor but those were because they were more op. His damage soak against Surtur was really impressive.

Plus I'd take Surturs sword/Skuttlebut over Poseidon's Trident anyday

He matched Wonder Woman twice in Rebirth.

One instance Diana thought she was fighting Cheetah and it was Arthur instead

The other instance they were both enraged by the Spectre’s negative emotions. Their weapon clash caused a backlash that knocked everyone present to the ground.

I don’t think Arthur is beating Bill in a physical fight. Their might be an opportunity with the trident but it’s slim. But he does have win circumstances if you throw in the telepathy and trident.

WW and Aquaman gets murdered. Spite.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
He matched Wonder Woman twice in Rebirth.

One instance Diana thought she was fighting Cheetah and it was Arthur instead

The other instance they were both enraged by the Spectre’s negative emotions. Their weapon clash caused a backlash that knocked everyone present to the ground.

I don’t think Arthur is beating Bill in a physical fight. Their might be an opportunity with the trident but it’s slim. But he does have win circumstances if you throw in the telepathy and trident.

His telepathic powers are sporadic.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
His telepathic powers are sporadic.

They nerfed his telepathy too?

Originally posted by -Pr-
They nerfed his telepathy too?

She means they appear everyonce in awhile. Which admittedly is true. Modern AC really doesn’t use telepathy offensively and unless it’s to get marine life to do something. I’d argue in a forum fight where plot isn’t a factor though I could see him getting wins that way though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They nerfed his telepathy too?

You're the only poster who tried to rep Arthur as a powerful telepath, bro 😛

He's probably quite irreplaceable when you go fishing, though.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
She means they appear everyonce in awhile. Which admittedly is true. Modern AC really doesn’t use telepathy offensively and unless it’s to get marine life to do something. I’d argue in a forum fight where plot isn’t a factor though I could see him getting wins that way though.

Ah okay. Thanks Geoff Johns.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're the only poster who tried to rep Arthur as a powerful telepath, bro 😛

He's probably quite irreplaceable when you go fishing, though.

How dare you forget Mungi and like... the three others of us.

Pr, read Drowned Earth arc from Scott Snyder's Justice League and go fanboy mode with his telepathy.

It's surprising to see Aquaman fans sidestep it repeatedly.

Do I REALLY have to do it?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Pr, read Drowned Earth arc from Scott Snyder's Justice League and go fanboy mode with his telepathy.

It's surprising to see Aquaman fans sidestep it repeatedly.

Do I REALLY have to do it?

I started reading his run but lost interest quickly. I thought it was awful.

Does it really get better?

No.

Originally posted by -Pr-
How dare you forget Mungi and like... the three others of us.

Comicfan. Haven't seen him in a long while.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.

Shame.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Comicfan. Haven't seen him in a long while.

Mungi was the OG iirc. I really wasn't even in to the character until around... 08ish I think. It was before Blackest Night anyway.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I started reading his run but lost interest quickly. I thought it was awful.

Does it really get better?

It's not very good overall, but some individual arcs are good.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're the only poster who tried to rep Arthur as a powerful telepath, bro 😛

He's probably quite irreplaceable when you go fishing, though.

Arthur's Tp is powerful, it's just different.
In the PAD run (I think) when an alien race was near earth offering help but with darker motives Arthur telepathically broadcast to people all over the planet and in space simultaneously.

He has succeeded where MMH hasn't on several occasions.

The thing is his TP works on the part of the brain that controls autonomic functions. That's why he can control fish with no higher brain function, and can give white Martians seizures but not control them.

To me comparing his TP to say MMH is like comparing a mallet to a scalpel. Other TPers are capable of doing a lot more with tp while not being more powerful (if that makes sense)

Originally posted by beatboks
Arthur's Tp is powerful, it's just different.
In the PAD run (I think) when an alien race was near earth offering help but with darker motives Arthur telepathically broadcast to people all over the planet and in space simultaneously.

He has succeeded where MMH hasn't on several occasions.

The thing is his TP works on the part of the brain that controls autonomic functions. That's why he can control fish with no higher brain function, and can give white Martians seizures but not control them.

To me comparing his TP to say MMH is like comparing a mallet to a scalpel. Other TPers are capable of doing a lot more with tp while not being more powerful (if that makes sense)

Granted. It's just not a tool he readily uses is the issue.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Granted. It's just not a tool he readily uses is the issue.

And I see that as because of the lack of versatility in its use.

A current writer doesn't want to use it giving seizures because it's been Don and looks like a lack of creativity but in a battle it's his only real application except vs other TPers where his limitations are more obvious

In short because ots one and only battle application has been done no other writer wants to use it because he looks uncreative. Those classic times when Arthur succeeded when MMH didn't it was Arthur's tp force breaking a barrier and then MMH guiding (or using his tp with his own) him telepathically for the more subtle work needed

Originally posted by beatboks
And I see that as because of the lack of versatility in its use.

A current writer doesn't want to use it giving seizures because it's been Don and looks like a lack of creativity but in a battle it's his only real application except vs other TPers where his limitations are more obvious

In short because ots one and only battle application has been done no other writer wants to use it because he looks uncreative. Those classic times when Arthur succeeded when MMH didn't it was Arthur's tp force breaking a barrier and then MMH guiding (or using his tp with his own) him telepathically for the more subtle work needed

I honestly feel like the seizure thing doesn’t happen because it’s cheap. It provides a limitation and every villain or anyone Aquaman faces it becomes “Why didn’t he just give him a seizure” It’s never been explained honestly. So it’s all theoretical I don’t think it’s just a matter of “we’ve seen Aquaman do that before”.

Mera for the same reason isn’t going to dehydrate or use internal hydrokinesis on everyone she fights for the same reason. Plot.

Aquaman actually has displayed some skill with Telepathy but a lot of the feats are more defensive and probing

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Granted. It's just not a tool he readily uses is the issue.

He used to. It seems to depend on the writer what aspect of his powers will be used the most nowadays.