Kirkman has made claims that Omni Man was written to be more powerful than Superman. This means that if DC gives Superman a boost, Kirkman can turn around and boost his Invincible characters.
If that's the case, Omni Man should win. I'm not buying it, but the writer can do anything that they want to do.
Originally posted by Stoic
Kirkman has made claims that Omni Man was written to be more powerful than Superman. This means that if DC gives Superman a boost, Kirkman can turn around and boost his Invincible characters.If that's the case, Omni Man should win. I'm not buying it, but the writer can do anything that they want to do.
What he says and what actually happens in the comics are two different things. Him saying something like that would only matter to me if he's talking about the characters he owns.
Has Omni-Man actually done any feats to put him above Superman? What few things I've seen wouldn't make me think that even before FLASHPOINT.
Well if scaling to Supreme, who is stronger than Suprema has a feat of lifting the weight of an entire universe. Omni Man matched Supreme blow for blow. Thragg is even more powerful, which is underselling the power differences in power between the two. Thragg absolutely demolished Omni Man. As the writer, he can scale even higher, especially since Viltrimites grow more powerful after every battle. Battle Beast would match Doomsday according to the power levels that Kirkman gave these characters.
It wouldn't be absurd if Omni Man were able to rip Wonder Woman's head off without much effort; if we were to accept the writers intentions. Just know that in fiction the sky is the limit. Suprema who is weaker than Supreme can lift a universe. It's absolutely ridiculous, but there it is all the same.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well if scaling to Supreme, who is stronger than Suprema has a feat of lifting the weight of an entire universe. Omni Man matched Supreme blow for blow. Thragg is even more powerful, which is underselling the power differences in power between the two. Thragg absolutely demolished Omni Man. As the writer, he can scale even higher, especially since Viltrimites grow more powerful after every battle. Battle Beast would match Doomsday according to the power levels that Kirkman gave these characters.It wouldn't be absurd if Omni Man were able to rip Wonder Woman's head off without much effort; if we were to accept the writers intentions. Just know that in fiction the sky is the limit. Suprema who is weaker than Supreme can lift a universe. It's absolutely ridiculous, but there it is all the same.
But after that, the best feat I've seen or heard of is less than planetary. Even without it being shared, to my understanding.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well if scaling to Supreme, who is stronger than Suprema has a feat of lifting the weight of an entire universe. Omni Man matched Supreme blow for blow. Thragg is even more powerful, which is underselling the power differences in power between the two. Thragg absolutely demolished Omni Man. As the writer, he can scale even higher, especially since Viltrimites grow more powerful after every battle. Battle Beast would match Doomsday according to the power levels that Kirkman gave these characters.It wouldn't be absurd if Omni Man were able to rip Wonder Woman's head off without much effort; if we were to accept the writers intentions. Just know that in fiction the sky is the limit. Suprema who is weaker than Supreme can lift a universe. It's absolutely ridiculous, but there it is all the same.
Gladiator matched Supreme too, so now Gladiator is above Superman too? I doubt it. Viltrimites.seem.way more squishy than kryptonians.
Originally posted by StoicThat's not how comics work. Characters (unlike real beings) fluctuate in power from comic to comic and scene to scene. In one instance a character can be operating at planet busting levels and in another barely able to 1000 tons. So when a character fights well against them could mean anything (that character matched 1000 tons or a planet). That's like me claiming Colussus has planet busting power because he fought decent against Gladiator before losing.
Well if scaling to Supreme, who is stronger than Suprema has a feat of lifting the weight of an entire universe. Omni Man matched Supreme blow for blow. Thragg is even more powerful, which is underselling the power differences in power between the two. Thragg absolutely demolished Omni Man. As the writer, he can scale even higher, especially since Viltrimites grow more powerful after every battle. Battle Beast would match Doomsday according to the power levels that Kirkman gave these characters.It wouldn't be absurd if Omni Man were able to rip Wonder Woman's head off without much effort; if we were to accept the writers intentions. Just know that in fiction the sky is the limit. Suprema who is weaker than Supreme can lift a universe. It's absolutely ridiculous, but there it is all the same.
You can only scale off a character's average (what is a typical average feat for Supreme?) to be reasonable (still debatable to dome though).
Also speed and hax weaponry is vastly more important than physical strength. It wouldn't be absurd if WW cut his head off (or lassoed) him faster than he can make an action. After all she lassoed Zoom when zoom was moving at superspeed. Scale right?
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Originally posted by Thinkerer
Gladiator matched Supreme too, so now Gladiator is above Superman too? I doubt it. Viltrimites.seem.way more squishy than kryptonians.
It said that Supreme was 4X more powerful than Gladiator though. I'm not making this stuff up. Perhaps they are squishy to those that have more power than they do, because Supreme wasn't exactly punching holes in Nolan like Thragg was able to.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's not how comics work. Characters (unlike real beings) fluctuate in power from comic to comic and scene to scene. In one instance a character can be operating at planet busting levels and in another barely able to 1000 tons. So when a character fights well against them could mean anything (that character matched 1000 tons or a planet). That's like me claiming Colussus has planet busting power because he fought decent against Gladiator before losing.
That's why ABC logic is flawed.You can only scale off a character's average (what is a typical average feat for Supreme?) to be reasonable (still debatable to dome though).
Also speed and hax weaponry is vastly more important than physical strength. It wouldn't be absurd if WW cut his head off (or lassoed) him faster than he can make an action. After all she lassoed Zoom when zoom was moving at superspeed. Scale right?
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You ought to check out how fast Omni Man actually is.