Political Correctness vs Dark Comedy

People can say whatever they want. But there will be consequences for those words... Somebody making rape jokes offends me. So I am free to never book a comedian who is using them, and spreading the word that they use rape jokes, so anyone who is also offended can avoid booking them.

Obviously libel and slander cross the line and are no longer protected by free speech. (As Sidney Powell is discovering).

If I am seeing racism or sexism, I'm going to call it out, no matter who is saying it. I don't care if you're joking, I'll tell you: "well it's not funny, don't say that.". And if you persist, you bet your ass we are taking that to HR. That's me using my freedom of speech to control my own environment. If HR agrees with me, you'll still have your freedom of speech, but you can exercise it at a different private company.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The more brutally offensive the better, quick frankly.

Anthony Jeselnik's Eric Clapton joke.
Ricky Gervias' "well make something up" joke
Frankie Boyle's Richard Hammond joke

They all pale in comparison to Jerry Sadowitz though. Last time I seen him he was making jokes about a celebrity that had committed suicide the day before. Jokes about the Grenfell Tower fire that happened about a week before. He just does not care.

Yes. Patrice O’Neil who is one of my favorite comic spoke on this. He even schooled a few people that said rape joke was not funny. He completely destroyed them on the fact that rape joke are indeed funny. And just because you say a rape joke, doesn’t mean you think rape is okay.

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I remember Patrice's debate during a program with that uptight offended lady. Just as she finished telling that such jokes are NEVER funny he responded with a joke that made the entire studio lose their sh!t including cameramen. You really had to listen to Patrice outside of his stand up to fully appreciate him. RIP.

I just remembered one that got a lot of controversy.

“It’s good that Katie Price is married to a cage fighter, you need someone that strong to stop Harvey from ****ing her” - Frankie Boyle

If you don’t know the context, Katie Price is a British model who got breast enlargement surgery so she could show them off and Harvey is her autistic son.

Originally posted by truejedi
People can say whatever they want. But there will be consequences for those words... Somebody making rape jokes offends me. So I am free to never book a comedian who is using them, and spreading the word that they use rape jokes, so anyone who is also offended can avoid booking them.

Obviously libel and slander cross the line and are no longer protected by free speech. (As Sidney Powell is discovering).

If I am seeing racism or sexism, I'm going to call it out, no matter who is saying it. I don't care if you're joking, I'll tell you: "well it's not funny, don't say that.". And if you persist, you bet your ass we are taking that to HR. That's me using my freedom of speech to control my own environment. If HR agrees with me, you'll still have your freedom of speech, but you can exercise it at a different private company.

You can be verbally attacked on both sides of the fence no matter what you're for or against.

This new generation has brought new people who are trying to increase sensitivity, and again this has also spurred on people who feel threatened by this and try to make a stand against political correctness. "I can say what I want when I want, you can't do shit to me, I can call you a n*gger 50 times if I want, it's free speech."

I don't believe it's wrong to say the n-word with a hard r and get punched. Why should you expect no repercussions? Just because you thought it was a joke everyone else should agree and if they don't then they're just "snowflakes" who can't take a joke.

It's not that people should care that you're offended, but they also take the piss out of you and mock you openly if you are, even if you don't speak up, if you act offended it's still grounds to mock you.

Like my trigger words for example are calling someone else an autist or a retard, that shit pisses me off, but if I say it bothers me, or anyone says it bothers them, they are mocked for it like it's some abnormality. That's at least been MY experience.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I just remembered one that got a lot of controversy.

“It’s good that Katie Price is married to a cage fighter, you need someone that strong to stop Harvey from ****ing her” - Frankie Boyle

If you don’t know the context, Katie Price is a British model who got breast enlargement surgery so she could show them off and Harvey is her autistic son.

Also the fact that Harvey is a fvcking beast, I remember seeing a picture of him when he was about 10 and he just looked like he could fold you up and throw you into a wall.

Originally posted by samhain
Also the fact that Harvey is a fvcking beast, I remember seeing a picture of him when he was about 10 and he just looked like he could fold you up and throw you into a wall.

Hello you C+++!

Spoiler:
that clip is wrong but funny

He's 29 stone I believe.

Originally posted by truejedi
People can say whatever they want. But there will be consequences for those words... Somebody making rape jokes offends me. So I am free to never book a comedian who is using them, and spreading the word that they use rape jokes, so anyone who is also offended can avoid booking them.

Obviously libel and slander cross the line and are no longer protected by free speech. (As Sidney Powell is discovering).

If I am seeing racism or sexism, I'm going to call it out, no matter who is saying it. I don't care if you're joking, I'll tell you: "well it's not funny, don't say that.". And if you persist, you bet your ass we are taking that to HR. That's me using my freedom of speech to control my own environment. If HR agrees with me, you'll still have your freedom of speech, but you can exercise it at a different private company.

Honestly, I'm ok with individuals speaking out.

The thing I'm against is "false concensus", or as Chomsky put it "manufacturing consent".

As in, Fox News magnifies opinion that agrees with their agenda, while ignoring other voices.

Or if a movie had a Youtube channel, and deleted all reasonable complaints and left the troll comments in place.

For example. The point is, distorting a narrative is not cool.

Originally posted by truejedi
People can say whatever they want. But there will be consequences for those words... Somebody making rape jokes offends me. So I am free to never book a comedian who is using them, and spreading the word that they use rape jokes, so anyone who is also offended can avoid booking them.

Obviously libel and slander cross the line and are no longer protected by free speech. (As Sidney Powell is discovering).

If I am seeing racism or sexism, I'm going to call it out, no matter who is saying it. I don't care if you're joking, I'll tell you: "well it's not funny, don't say that.". And if you persist, you bet your ass we are taking that to HR. That's me using my freedom of speech to control my own environment. If HR agrees with me, you'll still have your freedom of speech, but you can exercise it at a different private company.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Hello you C+++!

Spoiler:
that clip is wrong but funny

He's 29 stone I believe.

Jeez, difficult to see how 2 tiny people like Katie Price and Dwight Yorke could produce such large offspring.

Donald Trump tried to punish Comedians for joking about him.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Donald Trump tried to punish Comedians for joking about him.

Originally posted by Blakemore
well, he has the right to express his opposition, but the court makes the ultimate decision.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Donald Trump tried to manipulate the courts to serve him.

Originally posted by Blakemore
but he got khanned. 😉

I haven’t seen it.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I haven’t seen it.

I'm just saying you shouldn't walk around with a bunch of your mates calling random black men passing by you "*******" just to make your friends laugh.

If you get punched that is on you. If you're making someone the butt of the joke and it bothers them, and you keep at it despite them continuing to tell you to stop, politely, and they get up and chin you, that is on you. You cannot get angry at a person for having the simple capacity to feel offended at something you've done.

I'm sure everyone on here has at least once been irritated enough by a "joke" that it started an argument, hell maybe even turned into a physical altercation (though that's for more serious shit like blatant unfunny racism for the sake of being racist, or being overtly rude and edgy to the down syndrome guy in the group.)

The fact that the internet exists is a godsend for most people here as it gives them a platform of anonymity to do and say whatever the hell they want when they'd look at someone like a crazy person making the same jokes irl.

I have a black friend who usually asks for money and I made a dumb racist joke at his expense. He was okay with it because he really wanted a drink, so I bought him a pint and we had jokes and laughs. I saw him recently, he still looks like shit but that time he made jokes at me and gave me booze.

The point I’m trying to make is: jokes are jokes, hate is no joke.