Cable [God] vs Doctor Doom

Originally posted by abhilegend
Emma's shields are above Doom's? Hmm, not sure about that.

Moreover, Cable can attack on all fronts. He was soothing the pain of every dying person in the world, while stopping the deterioration of white blood cells in every AIDS patient in Africa, while constantly levitating Providence, while stopping hundreds of murders and thousands of car accidents... and after days of doing those things constantly, still had enough power in reserve to battle Surfer.

Even being generous to Doom, a forum Cable would simultaneously push his tp and tk defenses to their breaking point.

Maybe Doom can steal his powers or BFR him through time/space. Short of that, Cable wins, imo.

Yeah. Cable would annihilate him.

@smurph...

https://m.imgur.com/zFVom1t
https://m.imgur.com/QAs4g32

Doom seems to have defenses in his shields for mutant powers. Feel confident there's something that will protect against TK since Mags powers were near useless against him.

Originally posted by Smurph
Even if you'd debate that point, it doesn't really matter. If Cable had put in any effort he would have steamrolled Emma's shields. Carver says Doom could easily shield against Cable... I disagree.

Moreover, Cable can attack on all fronts. He was soothing the pain of every dying person in the world, while stopping the deterioration of white blood cells in every AIDS patient in Africa, while constantly levitating Providence, while stopping hundreds of murders and thousands of car accidents... and after days of doing those things constantly, still had enough power in reserve to battle Surfer.

Even being generous to Doom, a forum Cable would simultaneously push his tp and tk defenses to their breaking point.

Maybe Doom can steal his powers or BFR him through time/space. Short of that, Cable wins, imo.

Without any prep whatsoever, I'd go with Cable more often than not.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's flashy but even Cable insinuated that Xavier could stop him if he wanted. I'm not saying Doom is as powerful but he has a lot of random spells which can give Cable pause.

Xavier was later consulted when Cable issued his ultimatum to world leaders (including Reed)... but iirc Xavier was basically unable to stop Cable.

And regardless, even if true, proving that Xavier might have had a shot against Cable doesn’t say anything about Doom’s chances.

Originally posted by carver9
@smurph...

https://m.imgur.com/zFVom1t
https://m.imgur.com/QAs4g32

Doom seems to have defenses in his shields for mutant powers. Feel confident there's something that will protect against TK since Mags powers were near useless against him.

It's like watching someone block a punch and going "guess he's just got anti-human abilities."

Originally posted by carver9

https://m.imgur.com/0kPlDkm

I'm not even saying Doom is helpless here, but we can't just ignore details and context.

Originally posted by Smurph
When? Xavier said he wasn’t trying to get through Cable’s shields but Cable didn’t say anything about whether Xavier could stop him, iirc. And that encounter was before Cable got Deadpool’s hf, which countered the TO virus, boosting him to godhood.

Xavier was later consulted when Cable issued his ultimatum to world leaders (including Reed)... but iirc Xavier was basically unable to stop Cable.

And regardless, even if true, proving that Xavier might have had a shot against Cable doesn’t say anything about Doom’s chances.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Deadpool's HF didn't increase his power though, it increased his stamina.

Its true that DP healing does not boost Cables Psi powers directly. But the emergence of the T.O. forces Cable to divert his psi power and concentration inward to keep it in check. With DP healing factor he does not have to do that, thats why Cable is more powerful with the healing factor than without it.

He wasn't giving any thought to the TO virus even before that, it wasn't an issue because his power was so great he could suppress it with minimal effort.

Originally posted by "Id"
Its true that DP healing does not boost Cables Psi powers directly. But the emergence of the T.O. forces Cable to divert his psi power and concentration inward to keep it in check. With DP healing factor he does not have to do that, thats why Cable is more powerful with the healing factor than without it.

Think it was said on panel that he use 20% of his power to keep the virus in check.

https://m.imgur.com/k0QYWaz

Cable destroys poor Victor

Originally posted by Bentley
Cable destroys poor Victor

The Beyonder should've been able to do that as well. The Surfer is also more powerful, but Doom has his ways. Cable would win if Doom hasn't already prepared for him. What are the chances that he is? He was prepared for a random encounter with Count Nefaria. It could be argued that being prepared for the various superhuman threats on Earth is in character for Doom. He pushed a button and Count Nefaria dropped like a brick. You can't argue power set when it comes to characters like Doom because Cable could be one button push away from being depowered.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hmmmmm?

There is no good defense against telekinesis, unless you're a telekinetic yourself or magically enchanted in some specific way.

yeah, i swear i had a scan of doom negating mutant powers. i thought it was a shield, but i guess i was mistaken--or i can't find it.

i think if this were a prepped battle it would be a very different battle, but since nothing is said about prep, i still see cable taking this more often than not. doom faced phoenix once i think and stuck her in some sort of loop to take her out, but i think he'd prepped for that. i think cable just has too much power. he's also created sentinels, but i don't think we can assume he incorporated that tech into his armor unless someone can prove it.

problem with someone like doom is that it's possible he'd have whatever he needed. trying to determine what is standard in his armor is impossible. still, cable was....uber powerful. without something specific prepped in his armor, i just don't see him winning a random encounter most of the time.

Couldn't Doom potentially just BFR him?

Cable can teleport.

Any good scans of this cable?