When do Trumps attempts to gather support for reinstatement become a coup attempt?
Trump lost! And hard, but he seems to be looking for supporters and allies to disregard this loss and support his reinstatement, surely this is illegal in the states and could cause real violence, or perhaps a coup attempt, it's not.like a recent prior doesn't exist. So when do his actions and those of his leading followers start getting treated as treason?
What are they supposed to do about it? Freedom of speech is a thing, and so far he hasn't actually taken anything by force. No coup has happened.
The Capital riot could fall at his feet before itd said and done, and maybe Dominion could go after him in a civil suit. But he isn't being locked up for executing a coup, because he simply isn't in power anymore. No matter what anyone else thinks or says about it.
Originally posted by cdtm
People can support whoever they want. Trump still has to prove his allegations.It's his dime to waste.
LOL. There is overwhelming evidence that the election was stolen, but it's kind of hard to prove it in a court of law when the judges keep throwing the cases out without even considering the evidence.
It's called a cover up and the lying fake media is in on it and so is big tech; they censor or ban anyone who posts legitimate evidence that it was stolen . It shows that the deep state is still alive and well.
Trump won in a landslide regardless of what the "official" result was.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LOL. There is overwhelming evidence that the election was stolen, but it's kind of hard to prove it in a court of law when the judges keep throwing the cases out without even considering the evidence.It's called a cover up and the lying fake media is in on it (so is big tech; they censor or ban anyone who posts legitimate evidence that it was stolen) . It shows that the deep state is still alive and well.
Trump won in a landslide regardless of what the "official" result was.
He's going through the legal system.
So no coup. 👆
Re: When do Trumps attempts to gather support for reinstatement become a coup attempt?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Trump lost! And hard, but he seems to be looking for supporters and allies to disregard this loss and support his reinstatement, surely this is illegal in the states and could cause real violence, or perhaps a coup attempt, it's not.like a recent prior doesn't exist. So when do his actions and those of his leading followers start getting treated as treason?
The coup was already attempted on Jan 6th 2021, everything that has followed from Trump and his talking heads is a followup to another attack/attempt.
I think the transition from trump to Joe Biden was a color revolution done by the deep state.
The fact that is looks so obvious to conservatives is part of the plan.
For a fuller understanding of where this idea comes from
See this article.
I think calling what happened on January 6th a coup attempt is a bit overstating what happened. And even if you want to call it a coup attempt from some of the protesters there, some of whom certainly broke the law to some degree, to then claim that Trump orchestrated or was in charge of a coup attempt seems silly.
Clearly he is a bad loser, and he believes the election was taken from him, I don't think thinking or saying that should be illegal. I also don't think that him gathering supporters for a further political career should be stopped, I see the bigger problem to freedom in the big media houses, particularly Facebook and Twitter, having so much power that they can unilaterally destroy someone's chance to be heard in any meaningful way, these organizations shouldn't have that much power, particularly since they are owned and run by one or a handful of people, it's an immense danger to freedom and democracy.
If Trump were to plan to organize an armed take over of the United States, of course that would have to be dealt with by the states structures as it would be terrorism, treason or insurrection, however I don't see evidence of such a conspiracy. A lot of it also seems to me to be Democrats being just as bad winners as Trump is a bad loser.
Originally posted by Artol
I think calling what happened on January 6th a coup attempt is a bit overstating what happened. And even if you want to call it a coup attempt from some of the protesters there, some of whom certainly broke the law to some degree, to then claim that Trump orchestrated or was in charge of a coup attempt seems silly.Clearly he is a bad loser, and he believes the election was taken from him, I don't think thinking or saying that should be illegal. I also don't think that him gathering supporters for a further political career should be stopped, I see the bigger problem to freedom in the big media houses, particularly Facebook and Twitter, having so much power that they can unilaterally destroy someone's chance to be heard in any meaningful way, these organizations shouldn't have that much power, particularly since they are owned and run by one or a handful of people, it's an immense danger to freedom and democracy.
If Trump were to plan to organize an armed take over of the United States, of course that would have to be dealt with by the states structures as it would be terrorism, treason or insurrection, however I don't see evidence of such a conspiracy. A lot of it also seems to me to be Democrats being just as bad winners as Trump is a bad loser.
Tell that to the five people who died, and the $1.5-million in damages to the capitol.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Tell that to the five people who died, and the $1.5-million in damages to the capitol.
That is a strange reply, isn't it? I don't deny that there has been damage to the capitol, nor that people died and were hurt, nor that representatives were threatened. What I don't see evidence for is that there has been any sort of plan, orchestrated by Donald Trump, to implement a coup and seize power.
Nope... Trump's not a loser, bad or otherwise, because he actually won.
And yeah, calling what happened on Jan 6 a "riot" or an "insurrection" is just plain retarded.... so is lumping the hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who were peacefully protesting that day in DC in with the comparatively tiny number of idiots who forced their way into the Capitol building.
But of course democrats and the fake media don't have any interest in making that distinction. They want to punish every single Trumper who was in DC that day, regardless of whether or not they actually took part in the Capitol building breach.
Tell the people who had loved ones "killed" during this 'peaceful protest" that it's silly to call what happened on Jan 6th a riot.
So what do you say to people who think there should be a military supported overthrow of government similar to what happens in other countries?
https://time.com/6053336/michael-flynn-coup/
This weekend, former Trump National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn, called for a military coup against the U.S. government. He argued that, just like what happened in Myanmar, our military should seize power and overthrow our democratically elected government. We should all be alarmed when a former presidential appointee so blatantly turns his back on American democracy.
Originally posted by Artol
That is a strange reply, isn't it? I don't deny that there has been damage to the capitol, nor that people died and were hurt, nor that representatives were threatened. What I don't see evidence for is that there has been any sort of plan, orchestrated by Donald Trump, to implement a coup and seize power.
Plus something like four of the five deaths happened as a result of health conditions or other factors.
From usatoday:
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WASHINGTON – The District of Columbia medical examiner on Wednesday released the cause of death for four of the five people who died at the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, but results are still pending for Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.Dr. Francisco Diaz, the district's chief medical examiner, announced the causes of deaths as:
• Ashli Babbitt, 35, died by homicide from a gunshot to the left shoulder. She was shot by a Capitol police officer while trying to climb through a door near the House chamber.
• Kevin Greeson, 55, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. Greeson, of Athens, Alabama, had a Twitter account in which he supported former President Donald Trump and profanely denounced his opponents.
• Benjamin Phillips, 50, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Phillips of Ringtown, Pennsylvania, was a computer programmer who founded a social media website for Trump supporters. He had organized a trip of several dozen people to the district.
• Roseanne Boyland, 34, died by accident from acute amphetamine intoxication. Boyland, of Georgia, wanted to be a sobriety counselor and followed QAnon conspiracies, her family said.