When do Trumps attempts to gather support for reinstatement become a coup attempt?

Originally posted by tru-marvell
Tell the people who had loved ones "killed" during this 'peaceful protest" that it's silly to call what happened on Jan 6th a riot.

So what do you say to people who think there should be a military supported overthrow of government similar to what happens in other countries?

https://time.com/6053336/michael-flynn-coup/

This weekend, former Trump National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn, called for a military coup against the U.S. government. He argued that, just like what happened in Myanmar, our military should seize power and overthrow our democratically elected government. We should all be alarmed when a former presidential appointee so blatantly turns his back on American democracy.

This will only gain democratic support. I think most republicans have lost faith in their party.

The GOP/Trumpers are the party who cannot accept election results unless they win, then again, they still cried in 2016 about the results and they won that one.

They'll also go to any lengths to win, eg the insurrection on the capital eg look how many states are adopting voter-suppression laws now. They've known since at least the early 80's that the more people who vote, the less chance they have in winning.

If you don't believe me, take it from the mouths of Republicans:

YouTube video

"Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome - good government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
-Paul Weyrich

Originally posted by Artol
That is a strange reply, isn't it? I don't deny that there has been damage to the capitol, nor that people died and were hurt, nor that representatives were threatened. What I don't see evidence for is that there has been any sort of plan, orchestrated by Donald Trump, to implement a coup and seize power.

A coup is a a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from the government. It does not have to be orchestrated by Trump himself to be a coup.

Originally posted by cdtm
Plus something like four of the five deaths happened as a result of health conditions or other factors.

From usatoday:

Totally irrelevant. The riot was the proximate cause of those deaths. But for the riot, those people would still be alive.

Again, blaming every Trump supporter who was peacefully protesting in DC that day for what a few hundred or so dumbasses did is just retarded. But, most leftists are in fact retarded so carry on I guess.

And also, just keep ignoring all the damage and people hurt or killed during all of those BLM/Antifa "mostly peaceful" (lol) protests. Why do democrats and dem voters always ignore those? Perhaps if the idiots who breached the capitol building had done more than just break a few windows and take a crap on Pelosi's desk the democrats would've deemed that a "mostly peaceful" protest as well. I know, maybe if they had burned down the building entirely then dems wouldn't be making a big deal out if it lol.

Edit: actually, I take that back... dems would wanna punish them regardless because so many of them were apparently Trump supporters. That is what democrats and their voters really wanna punish them for. January 6th is just the pretext they use for hoing after Trump supporters.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Again, blaming every Trump supporter who was peacefully protesting in DC that day for what a few hundred or so dumbasses did is just retarded. But, most leftists are in fact retarded so carry on I guess.

Keep that same energy:

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And also, just keep ignoring all the damage and people hurt or killed during all of those BLM/Antifa "mostly peaceful" (lol) protests. Why do demoxrats and dem voters always ignore those? Perhaps if the idiots who breached the capitol building had done more than just break a few wi dows and take a crap on Pelosi's desk the democrats would've deemed that a "mostly peaceful" protest as well. I know, maybe if they had burned down the building entirely then dems wouldn't be making a big deal out if it lol.

Oh, too late. Hypocrisy confirmed.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Again, blaming every Trump supporter who was peacefully protesting in DC that day for what a few hundred or so dumbasses did is just retarded. But, most leftists are in fact retarded so carry on I guess.

And also, just keep ignoring all the damage and people hurt or killed during all of those BLM/Antifa "mostly peaceful" (lol) protests. Why do democrats and dem voters always ignore those? Perhaps if the idiots who breached the capitol building had done more than just break a few windows and take a crap on Pelosi's desk the democrats would've deemed that a "mostly peaceful" protest as well. I know, maybe if they had burned down the building entirely then dems wouldn't be making a big deal out if it lol.

Edit: actually, I take that back... dems would wanna punish them regardless because so many of them were apparently Trump supporters. That is what democrats and their voters really wanna punish them for. January 6th is just the pretext they use for hoing after Trump supporters.

Edit: *going* after Trump supporters, not "hoing" lol. Still posting from this damn phone and as a result am much more prone to making typos.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Totally irrelevant. The riot was the proximate cause of those deaths. But for the riot, those people would still be alive.

Could be:

• Ashli Babbitt, 35, died by homicide from a gunshot to the left shoulder. She was shot by a Capitol police officer while trying to climb through a door near the House chamber.

• Kevin Greeson, 55, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. Greeson, of Athens, Alabama, had a Twitter account in which he supported former President Donald Trump and profanely denounced his opponents.

• Benjamin Phillips, 50, died of natural causes from cardiovascular disease. According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Phillips of Ringtown, Pennsylvania, was a computer programmer who founded a social media website for Trump supporters. He had organized a trip of several dozen people to the district.

• Roseanne Boyland, 34, died by accident from acute amphetamine intoxication. Boyland, of Georgia, wanted to be a sobriety counselor and followed QAnon conspiracies, her family said.

The gunshot wound is a definite.

The cardiovascular disease is a strong may be. They may not have passed away that day, although odds are they were on borrowed time.

I'd argue the drug overdose person was doomed regardless. That's just poor judgement, leading to a sad outcome.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Keep that same energy:

[QUOTE=17443465]Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
[B]And also, just keep ignoring all the damage and people hurt or killed during all of those BLM/Antifa "mostly peaceful" (lol) protests. Why do democrats and dem voters always ignore those? Perhaps if the idiots who breached the capitol building had done more than just break a few windows and take a crap on Pelosi's desk the democrats would've deemed that a "mostly peaceful" protest as well. I know, maybe if they had burned down the building entirely then dems wouldn't be making a big deal out if it lol.

Oh, too late. Hypocrisy confirmed. [/B][/QUOTE]

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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Again, blaming every Trump supporter who was peacefully protesting in DC that day for what a few hundred or so dumbasses did is just retarded. But, most leftists are in fact retarded so carry on I guess.

And also, just keep ignoring all the damage and people hurt or killed during all of those BLM/Antifa "mostly peaceful" (lol) protests. Why do democrats and dem voters always ignore those? Perhaps if the idiots who breached the capitol building had done more than just break a few windows and take a crap on Pelosi's desk the democrats would've deemed that a "mostly peaceful" protest as well. I know, maybe if they had burned down the building entirely then dems wouldn't be making a big deal out if it lol.

Edit: actually, I take that back... dems would wanna punish them regardless because so many of them were apparently Trump supporters. That is what democrats and their voters really wanna punish them for. January 6th is just the pretext they use for hoing after Trump supporters.

Ummm, the people who didn't storm the capital and were just peacefully protesting their Big Lie are not being arrested, no one is going after them.

They're still deplorable Trumpers mind you, but they're not being arrested.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ummm, the people who didn't storm the capital and were just peacefully protesting their Big Lie are not being arrested, no one is going after them.

They're still deplorable Trumpers mind you, but they're not being arrested.

They're radicalized, so probably over some act(s) in the near future.

Originally posted by Robtard
They're radicalized, so probably over some act(s) in the near future.

Originally posted by Robtard

Ashlii Bobbitt's death wound up not being ruled homicide I believe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump

Various people and groups assert that U.S. president Donald Trump engaged in impeachable activity both before and during his presidency,[1][2] and talk of impeachment began before he took office.[3][4] Grounds asserted for impeachment have included possible violations of the Foreign Emoluments Clause of the Constitution by accepting payments from foreign dignitaries; alleged collusion with Russia during the campaign for the 2016 United States presidential election; alleged obstruction of justice with respect to investigation of the collusion claim; and accusations of "Associating the Presidency with White Nationalism, Neo-Nazism and Hatred", which formed the basis of a resolution for impeachment brought on December 6, 2017.

They've been trying to remove him since before he took office. Donald Trumps entire presidency has been an extended impeachment attempt.

Justified or not, I don't believe an entire four years of focus on removal can be characterized as good faith. They determined from before the start he had to go, and were looking for excuses to get rid of him.

That can be a type of coup attempt.

Trump shouldn't have committed impeachable offenses. Only three in total have been impeached, seems like a fairly easy thing to avoid.

In Don McGhan's recent testimony, he knew Trump was committing impeachable offenses and knew if he had followed Trump's orders, he could have implicated himself legally.