Originally posted by ilikecomicsif there’s no government, then what’s the police source? You’ve got it all backwards!
So the government can use unlimited force without repercussion ? And the evil rich business men can bribe the government ?
And without the government, if the capitalists shoot people they'd get in trouble and go to jail right ?
Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm anarcho capitalist, which is the furthest right position.
The furthest right you could go would be pure anarchy..
I don't see how free market capitalism would thrive in anarchy.
Nor do I see how property rights would.
We need at least a limited government in order to protect them.
Originally posted by Robtard
Odd that Klaw listed his buddy ilikecomics as a Rightwinger, considering he claims to be an anarchist and that's Far-Left.
Nope, it's extreme right. It is the total opposite of big government total control over everything which is the extreme left.
I know many misinformed people think anarchy is on the extreme left but it's not.... just the opposite.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
So the government can use unlimited force without repercussion ? And the evil rich business men can bribe the government ?
And without the government, if the capitalists shoot people they'd get in trouble and go to jail right ?
No, government s not supposed to be able to do that. That's why conservatives don't want zero government, we want a limited government. I've posted this before but here it is again.
The only legitimate roles a limited government should have is::
1. Protecting people's rights (that includes property rights, btw)
2. Protecting our borders and the country (yes that means having strong border control as well as a strong military)
3. Punishing criminals/terrorists/and other evil-doers
That's it.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaewhere does international trade come into place?
No, government s not supposed to be able to do that. That's why conservatives don't want zero government, we want a limited government. I've posted this before but here it is again.The only legitimate roles a limited government should have is::
1. Protecting people's rights (that includes property rights, btw)
2. Protecting our borders and the country (yes that means having strong border control as well as a strong military)
3. Punishing criminals/terrorists/and other evil-doers
That's it.
Not gonna waste my time with you, scribble. I might hurt your fragile, wittle fee fees again the way I did on the topic of atom bombs being dropped on Japan and then you'll probably chidishly deflect away from topic by bringing up my personal beliefs on the age of the earth or whatever and then I'll have to respond by making fun of your gender confusion lmao.
So, yeah, I'll pass.
And, yep, anarchy is extreme right wing. 🙂
You'd know that if you actually understood the political spectrum, but, like so many other things, you're clueless about it.
Laughter is not an argument, snowflake. 😉
Now run along and keep pretending to be a girl. 😆
So you're saying you're incapable of adult conversation without resorting to personal identity-centric insults? Again, very embarrassing for you, hilarious to everyone else. If you wanna insult my gender identity go for it, then maybe blow off some steam by jacking off to some 'trannies' 🙂
I'm not sure why you keep focusing on this atom bomb thing, you seem very upset about it but honestly all I remember about that conversation was you claiming that cities are military targets so it's okay to blow them up, but Pearl Harbour was a civilian target so that was Japan being evil. lol
edit: lmao you're so fragile that you felt the need to edit your post just to drop a tranny insult. Calm down man, idg why you're so angry all the time. You're the Bashar Teg of fascism
Originally posted by Klaw
[B]Far LeftBashar Teg, Old Man Whirly, Robtard, truejedi, Lord Lucien, Scribble, Adam_PoE, Nemebro, Trocity, Jaden 2.0, Patient Leech, Newjak, dadudemon, Darth Thor, samhain, PR
Center Left
Blake, snowdragon, Silent Master, SquallX, cdtm, ArtificialGlory, Artol
Centrist
BackFire, Impediment
Center Right
Klaw, ilikecomics
Far Right
eThneoLgrRnae [/B]
I get that you are sort of saying a nice thing about me there, but to be described as "center left" is somewhat painful, lol.
I think we all sort of use different definitions of left. Like "ilikecomics" basically thinks more right means less state interference in the market. I, on the other hand, see left wing politics primarily economically, as the empowerment, and democratization of the workplace for the people doing the work, against capital control of it. In my definition, I have not see anyone on this site express anything remotely as left wing as what I consider sensible.
When you use the terms left and right, what do they mean to you?
Originally posted by KlawTbh, I'm surprised at those views you have, never would've guessed.
Yup. That's my point.
I am a big believer in tolerance though. So I might believe certain behaviours are morally wrong or unwise, but to each their own (except for when it directly harms others) and I'm not one to judge anyone.
This is the thing. Most "far left" posters here are economically centre to centre-right (in some cases). On the flip side I believe Capitalism must end before any hope can possibly be seen for humanity to achieve a semblance of true liberty. Yet apparently we're all termed "far left".
Personally I think you have to be fundamentally opposed to Capitalism to be termed "far left", regardless of whether you are authoritarian or libertarian, and regardless of your social views.
I think more people here (especially those on the right) need to look up the four-square political alignment chart, it's not perfect to any degree and is far too basic, but it's light years ahead of "right wing = anarchy" and "far left = fascism", which, as I say, is embarrassingly incorrect, (not just) because there is just as much (if not more) anarchist literature that comes from a mutual-aid, post-market perspective as a free-market, absolute-individualist perspective (Bakunin, Goldman, Chomksy, etc.)