My Ranking of KMC Members' Politics

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Wasn’t Spain fascist in the 30s?

Originally posted by Blakemore
Wasn’t Spain fascist in the 30s?
yup, up to 1975 to a point.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
the ownership by the people of the means of production is a transition state to the kind of communism Scribble talks of.

That's still centralized control, and an economy not based on cost calculation, meaning doomed to inefficiency until collapse.

Spain was fascist until the mid-70s. Deeply anti-socialist, deeply anti-anarchist, etc. Orwell (social-anarchist) and the poet Lorca both fought in the skirmishes through the decades. Franco's regime was distinctly right-wing, obviously, being fascist and all.

Nobody seems to remember Mussolini either, lol. Massive fascist, if you, uh, didn't know. Founding nation of fascism, in fact, and you can thank Giovanni Gentile, although it became more than he bargained for.

It's funny having more political knowledge than many of those around you, you get to stare on in confusion as people say the gosh-darn'dest things. And I'm not even that smart. Just takes a bit of research in one's own spare time (even as a wage slave).

Originally posted by Scribble
Spain was fascist until the mid-70s. Deeply anti-socialist, deeply anti-anarchist, etc. Orwell (social-anarchist) and the poet Lorca both fought in the skirmishes through the decades. Franco's regime was distinctly right-wing, obviously, being fascist and all.

Nobody seems to remember Mussolini either, lol. Massive fascist, if you, uh, didn't know. Founding nation of fascism, in fact, and you can thank Giovanni Gentile, although it became more than he bargained for.

It's funny having more political knowledge than many of those around you, you get to stare on in confusion as people say the gosh-darn'dest things. And I'm not even that smart. Just takes a bit of research in one's own spare time (even as a wage slave).

I've actually been in fascist Spain although I can't really remember it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I've actually been in fascist Spain although I can't really remember it.
Whirly is walking history (and I mean that with respect)

Originally posted by Scribble
Whirly is walking history (and I mean that with respect)
😂

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
yup, up to 1975 to a point.
anarcho-syndicalism, my ass!

Noam Chomsky proposed that philosophy and he’s one of the most famous leftists!

Originally posted by Blakemore
anarcho-syndicalism, my ass!

Noam Chomsky proposed that philosophy and he’s one of the most famous leftists!

Chomskey's writing are shite, spot on Blake!

Originally posted by Blakemore
anarcho-syndicalism, my ass!

Noam Chomsky proposed that philosophy and he’s one of the most famous leftists!

There have been anarcho-syndicalist systems within Spain that were crushed under Franco, if that is somehow what he meant. Franco smashed the anarchists brutally, but they fought well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Chomskey's writing are shite, spot on Blake!
Haven't read enough Chomsky to comment, but I like the man generally.

Just wanna say that tonight's discussion has been fun on all sides. Major props, people. I'm probably gonna sleep soon but I appreciate the discourse.

Originally posted by Scribble
Just wanna say that tonight's discussion has been fun on all sides. Major props, people. I'm probably gonna sleep soon but I appreciate the discourse.
I agree, it’s nice when we can actually have discussions. I actually have a book by Chomsky called “how the world works” which was a Christmas present one year. I haven’t read it, but reading books bore me. I only ever read if I needed to.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Chomskey's writing are shite, spot on Blake!

Haven't read enough on the man myself, but the bits of lectures I've heard, he comes off as amicable, very intelligent and I've found myself agreeing with him either in part or full.

Why do you dislike him?

Originally posted by Robtard
Haven't read enough on the man myself, but the bits of lectures I've heard, he comes off as amicable, very intelligent and I've found myself agreeing with him either in part or full.

Why do you dislike him?

I feel the same. I'm no expert on his entire body of works but liked very much Manufacturing Consent.

Originally posted by Scribble
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Yeah, I get it. You are too goddamn stupid as most lefties are here to grasp such a simple f***ing concept. Anarchy in it's truest form--that is, anarchy as an end in itself and not just something people engage in to tear down the system with the end goal of forming a new government like Communism-- is extreme right wing. Period.

Your childish little emojis won't ever change that you poor, gender confused dolt. You are just ignorant. The marxism type "anarchy" you are referring to is transient. It is not something people permanently want, dumbass.

Okay, you are on a spectrum ethneo, but it’s not political. ermhappy

Originally posted by Robtard
Haven't read enough on the man myself, but the bits of lectures I've heard, he comes off as amicable, very intelligent and I've found myself agreeing with him either in part or full.

Why do you dislike him?

his idealism is often impractical. He often doesn't provide alternatives and solutions. He is often just a problem bearer.

I'm just amazed at how ignorant so many so-called "educated" people are... smh. ❌

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, I get it. You are too goddamn stupid as most lefties are here to grasp such a simple f***ing concept. Anarchy in it's truest form--that is, anarchy as an end in itself and not just something people engage in to tear down the system with the end goal of forming a new government like Communism-- is extreme right wing. Period.

Your childish little emojis won't ever change that you poor, gender confused dolt. You are just ignorant. The marxism type "anarchy" you are referring to is transient. It is not something people permanently want, dumbass.

haermm

He even edited out your links and couldn’t even do that properly.