North Korean defector: US schools are nuts

Started by eThneoLgrRnae9 pages

LOL@ all the people who're downplaying what she is saying or acting as if she isn't qualified to speak about it after all she's been through..... smh.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LOL@ all the people who're downplaying what she is saying or acting as if she isn't qualified to speak about it after all she's been through..... smh.

I am not downplaying or disagreeing with her experiences in NK, as I am perfectly aware that it is a horror show; what I am disagreeing with is some of the conclusions she is drawing.

Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
North Korea is a fascist state, not a leftist government. I wish your stupidity was painful to you instead of others.

They're actually a dynastic offshoot of communism.

The reason why there's a nk and a sk is because the US and Russia politically split it down the middle.

Russia funded Kim IL sung, and they've been communist ever since.

You can listen to Audio books while you blow men, that way you can keep your humiliation in the bedroom, where it belongs, instead of bringing to the big boy table where we're trying to take things seriously.

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Originally posted by Newjak
This is just so detached from reality.

I've seen many new stories and articles from what would be considered 'left' wing media calling out North Korea and their government.

I didn't say that wasn't the case. I was saying it isn't a partisan concern, which someone else did claim.

Anyone shining a light on the evils of north Korea is a good guy, at least in that regard.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
There is very little appreciable difference between a fascist dictatorship and a communist dictatorship anyway. However, it seems silly to me to compare the sort of all-encompassing brainwashing that goes on in NK schools and society in general to the problems that exist in the US education system.

If I sent you a 70 page book about the topic, would you read it ?

It's a criticism of public schools from an an cap perspective.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
And let us not forget that NK has no alternatives and if you try to establish an alternative, you will get a visit in the middle of the night from some very nice people and you(along with your family) will never be heard from again. In NK, it is either hardline Marxist dogma or a concentration camp. Not the case in the US, obviously.

Not yet.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
They're actually a dynastic offshoot of communism.

The reason why there's a nk and a sk is because the US and Russia politically split it down the middle.

Russia funded Kim IL sung, and they've been communist ever since.

You can listen to Audio books while you blow men, that way you can keep your humiliation in the bedroom, where it belongs, instead of bringing to the big boy table where we're trying to take things seriously.

😆 🤣 😆 lmao@ the last paragraph. 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias.

I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth 🙄

Originally posted by Newjak
I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth 🙄

Yup.

But look at it from Yeonmi Park's POV, these are the same people and types of people that believe(d) the Sandy Hook mass shooting was a false flag orchestrated by Obama to take away guns, the Jade Helm nonsense, QAnon idiocy and that Trump was cheated out of his "biggest win", to name a few.

Of course they're going to believe a claim that American schools are worse than NK schools when it comes to indoctrination. She's playing them for the fools they are and it's for financial gains, she's still a scumbag though.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
If I sent you a 70 page book about the topic, would you read it ?

It's a criticism of public schools from an an cap perspective.


Probably not. I already know more than enough about that fringe neo-feudalist ideology.

Originally posted by Newjak
I think the more interesting thing is that there is more than just one North Korean going to American schools but for some reason one of them says something like this and all of sudden she is only one speaking truth.

Most conservatives wouldn't even care to look up what other North Korean refugees would say.

They also don't mention most North Koreans have to go into a integration/deprogramming situation to even operate in countries other than North Korea.

Yet this ones says something they like therefore truth 🙄

The consensus between north Korean defectors is pretty monolithic.

Not sure what you mean, any examples of a nk defector saying something radically different than this lady ?

lol Rob. You have proven yet again over the last few days with your comments that you are no liberal, at least not in the classical sense. You are clearly one of them "woke" lefties lol.

Anyone who thinks you are anywhere near the center isn't very bright.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Probably not. I already know more than enough about that fringe neo-feudalist ideology.

Then you should know public schools are comparable to the kimjongillkimilsung institutes that exist in nk.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
lol Rob. You have proven yet again over the last few days with your comments that you are no liberal, at least not in the classical sense. You are clearly one of them "woke" lefties lol.

Nah.

But as a Liberal, I believe you're absolutely free to believe these ridiculous claims that American schools are far worse when it comes to indoctrination than North Korean schools. I'm also free to laugh at it/you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Her "conclusions" are aimed to ring in the ears of certain types and to her credit, it's working, as she's getting more and more media coverage (Hannity had her on his show) and she will be booking talking events soon enough and earning a wage.

In reality, anyone who believes that US schools are like NK schools when in comes to indoctrination (they're taught the Kim's are divine-like in NK), they're likely pushing a false narrative they're fully aware of or they're just stupid people who will believe anything if it aligns with their bias.


As someone who comes from a former Soviet republic, I can understand her aversion to anything that has so much as a waft of Communism or Marxism, therefor I am willing to give her the benefit of a doubt. Or, you know, she just decided to make herself a nice chunk of change by pandering to the fears of conservatives.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
As someone who comes from a former Soviet republic, I can understand her aversion to anything that has so much as a waft of Communism or Marxism, therefor I am willing to give her the benefit of a doubt. Or, you know, she just decided to make herself a nice chunk of change by pandering to the fears of conservatives.

Why not both ?

Pandering doesn't have to be untrue.

"Pandering to fears of Conservatives" lol.

"Yeah, she suffered under the cruel oppression of a totalitarian (and yes, it most certainly is communist) regime and notice strong similarities in American colleges to the brainwashing she experienced in North Korea but so what, that doesn't prove anything! I lived under the Soviet Union so I know more about the government type she suffered under than she does! She just doesn't know what she is talking about. She is delusional and just pandering to Conservatives. Her words don't matter. Who gives a shit what she has gone through! I lived in da Soviet Union so I am the supreme authority on North Korea, not someone who has actually lived there! You should all just take my word for it, just because I said so!"

The Soviet Union is not the only communist country to ever exist, ffs. Again, she seems like an intelligent woman. If she says N Korea is communist then sorry I am gonna take her word over someone who has not lived in North Korea. I'm not buying this butthurt narrative from lefties here that she is just making shit up to get positive attention from Conservatives, sorry.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"Pandering to fears of Conservatives" lol.

"Yeah, she suffered under the cruel oppression of a totalitarian (and yes, it is most certainly is communist) regime and notice strong similarities in American colleges to the brainwashing she experienced in North Korea but so what, that doesn't prove anything! lived under the Soviet Union so I know more about the government type she suffered under than she does! She just doesn't know what she is talking about. She is delusional and just pandering to Conservatives. Her words don't matter. Who gives a shit what she has gone through! I lived in da Soviet Union so I am the supreme authority on North Korea, not someone who has actually lived there! You should all just take my word for it, just because I said so!"

The Soviet Union is not the only communust country to ever exist, ffs. Again, she seems like an intelligent woman. If she says N Korea is communist then sorry I am gonna take her word over someone who has not lived in North Korea. I'm not buying this butthurt narrative from lefties here that she is just making shit up to get positive attention from Conservatives, sorry.

So you believe her claim that America schools are worse when in comes to indoctrination than North Korean schools. 😂

Originally posted by ilikecomics
The consensus between north Korean defectors is pretty monolithic.

Not sure what you mean, any examples of a nk defector saying something radically different than this lady ?

That's kind of proving a negative.

Here is the truth that most NK's talk about how NK is more oppressive and not the other way around.

They talk about how America still provides hardships to them and that they miss their families.

Many of them also don't know how to operate outside of North Korea.

Many of them carry conservative views with them even after leaving the country.

And the thing is this isn't a new thing. We've seen this from Soviet refugees, Chinese refugees, South American refugees.

Let's be honest here though that she is a conservative looking through these things in a conservative manner or playing conservatives as Rob pointed out. After all one of her stories of 'oppression' involved having to learn that some people go by different pronouns then the traditional male/female pronouns. I'm sorry but comparing that to NK's indoctrination is silly.

I hope you can agree with that.