Should people propagating false narratives like "stop the steal" be prosecuted?"

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75% of GOP Voters Approve of Trump as Dictator

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It has been evident for a long time that Republicans—and especially supporters of Donald Trump—take a more no-holds-barred approach to politics than Democrats do. They are much more likely to say political violence can be justified, for instance.

It has also become clear that Trump being convicted of a felony is not a red line for the vast majority of them. But for apparently the first time, we can affix a number to how many of them think that Trump breaking the law for political ends is okay: 3 in 10.

That is the finding of a new Fox News poll this weekend. While 65 percent of Trump supporters said a president should always follow the rules and the law, 30 percent said breaking rules and laws is justified.

The irony of Donald Trump's assertion that he would seek to have dictatorial powers for the first day of his presidency is that he was supposed to be saying he had no authoritarian inclinations at all. Hannity aired clips of observers offering warnings about Trump's embrace of authoritarian rhetoric and offered Trump a chance to tamp down any such concerns. But Trump did not want to.

On Wednesday, UMass Amherst released the results of a poll conducted by YouGov in which respondents were asked about the concept. A third of Republicans said it was "definitely good" with three-quarters saying it was "probably" good.

Republicans have a sick fascination with dictators and being ruled by a "strong daddy" figure. Why so many of them freely wedge themselves up Putin's asscrack.

Key Figure in Fake Electors Plot Hid Evidence from Investigators

Kenneth Chesebro, the right-wing attorney who helped devise the Trump campaign's fake electors plot in 2020, concealed a secret Twitter account from Michigan prosecutors, hiding dozens of damning posts that undercut his statements to investigators about his role in the election subversion scheme.

Chesebro denied using X, or having any "alternate IDs" when directly asked by Michigan investigators last year during his cooperation session.

But Chesebro has been linked to a secret account based on numerous matching details—including biographical information regarding his work, family, travels, and investments. The anonymous account, BadgerPundit, also showed a keen interest in the Electoral College process, and lined up with Chesebro's private activities at the time.

The X posts reveal that even before the 2020 election, and then just two days after polls closed, Chesebro promoted a far more aggressive election subversion strategy than he later let on in his Michigan interview.

Since Chesebro intentionally misled investigators, he is now facing legal jeopardy.

"Chesebro appears to have pursued a legally perilous path in his dealings with Michigan authorities," said Ryan Goodman, a law professor at New York University, who reviewed the posts. "The X posts strongly suggest Chesebro committed the crime of making false statements to investigators. His entire cooperation agreement may now fall apart."

It appears Chesebro "hid highly-important evidence in the form of these social media posts from the investigators," Goodman said, adding that it could put Chesebro "at great legal risk."

MAGATard Guilty of Threatening Election Official

An Indiana man pleaded guilty today to sending a communication that included a threat of violence to an election worker in Michigan.

"Andrew Nickels threatened that he and millions of so-called 'patriots' would kill an election worker in Michigan. Among other threats, he said the local public official deserved a 'throat to the knife' for saying that there were no irregularities in the election," said Acting Assistant Attorney General Nicole M. Argentieri of the Justice Department's Criminal Division.

"Election officials and workers play a critical role in safeguarding free and fair elections. The Criminal Division will continue to aggressively investigate and prosecute individuals who seek to undermine this core tenet of our democracy by threatening election officials with violence."

According to court documents, on or about November 10th 2020, Andrew Nickels, 37, of Carmel called the clerk of a local municipality and left a voicemail threatening to kill the local official.

As part of the message, Nickels stated, "We're watching your mouth talk about how you think that there's no irregularities. You frauded out America of a real election."

Nickels then told the clerk that "you’re gonna pay for it," and described how "ten million plus patriots will surround you when you least expect it."

He continued, "We'll ****ing kill you. You will ****ing pay for your ****ing lying ass remarks. We will ****ing take you out. **** your family, **** your life, and you deserve a ****ing throat to the knife. Watch your ****ing back. Watch your ****ing back."

POLL: 20% Say Violence May Be Necessary to Fix USA

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Two-and-a-half years after the January 6th attack on the Capitol, an estimated 12-million American adults, or 4.4% of the adult population, believe violence is justified to restore Donald Trump to the White House. Though the number of adults who believe this has declined since the insurrection, recent survey data from the University of Chicago reveal alarming and dangerous levels of support for political violence and conspiracy theories across the United States.

The university's Chicago Project on Security & Threats research center has been conducting Dangers to Democracy surveys of American adults on political violence and attitudes towards democracy since shortly after the January 6th attacks. In new data from April, researchers found a continued support for violence to achieve various political goals, and a general distrust for democracy.

One in 5 U.S. adults believe Americans may have to resort to violence to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll, an attitude that experts say puts the nation in "an incredibly dangerous place" in the months before the 2024 presidential election.

Republicans were more likely than Democrats or independents—and more likely than the population overall—to say force may be needed to course-correct.

Donald Trump has questioned the humanity of immigrants, referred to a much debated "blood bath for the country" if he does not get reelected, and describes people who have been convicted for January 6th criminal offenses as "hostages."

Once again, this percentage is consistent with the number of Evangelicals and Republicans in the U.S.

Good thing all the guns are with those same people then, nice job disarming all the progressives lol 😆

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One in 5 U.S. adults believe Americans may have to resort to violence to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll, an attitude that experts say puts the nation in "an incredibly dangerous place" in the months before the 2024 presidential election.

Republicans were more likely than Democrats or independents—and more likely than the population overall—to say force may be needed to course-correct.

Donald Trump has questioned the humanity of immigrants, referred to a much debated "blood bath for the country" if he does not get reelected, and describes people who have been convicted for January 6th criminal offenses as "hostages."

Once again, this percentage is consistent with the number of Evangelicals and Republicans in the U.S.

Don't forget these are also the supposed lovers of the Constitution and rule of law. Unless of course they need to implement their warped ideology. Democracy opposes their ideology, so it's got to go.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Don't forget these are also the supposed lovers of the Constitution and rule of law. Unless of course they need to implement their warped ideology. Democracy opposes their ideology, so it's got to go.

Democracy was a bad idea and needs to be abolished.

Originally posted by cdtm
Democracy was a bad idea and needs to be abolished.

It definitely needs some tweaking because of you Right-wing wackos always ushering in fascists.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It definitely needs some tweaking because of you Right-wing wackos always ushering in fascists.

Rightist love to be dominated and told what to do, why they always gravitate to the 'strong-man-strong-daddy' types, or perceived to be that way types.

Chesebro Charged in Fake Electors Plot

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Kenneth Chesebro, the right-wing attorney who helped devise the Trump campaign's fake electors plot in 2020, concealed a secret Twitter account from Michigan prosecutors, hiding dozens of damning posts that undercut his statements to investigators about his role in the election subversion scheme.

Chesebro denied using X, or having any "alternate IDs" when directly asked by Michigan investigators last year during his cooperation session.

But Chesebro has been linked to a secret account based on numerous matching details—including biographical information regarding his work, family, travels, and investments. The anonymous account, BadgerPundit, also showed a keen interest in the Electoral College process, and lined up with Chesebro's private activities at the time.

The X posts reveal that even before the 2020 election, and then just two days after polls closed, Chesebro promoted a far more aggressive election subversion strategy than he later let on in his Michigan interview.

Since Chesebro intentionally misled investigators, he is now facing legal jeopardy.

"Chesebro appears to have pursued a legally perilous path in his dealings with Michigan authorities," said Ryan Goodman, a law professor at New York University, who reviewed the posts. "The X posts strongly suggest Chesebro committed the crime of making false statements to investigators. His entire cooperation agreement may now fall apart."

It appears Chesebro "hid highly-important evidence in the form of these social media posts from the investigators," Goodman said, adding that it could put Chesebro "at great legal risk."

Wisconsin's attorney general filed charges Tuesday against an aide and two attorneys who advised Donald Trump over a meeting of Republicans who claimed to be the state's 2020 presidential electors even though Trump had lost the state.

The charges are the first in Wisconsin related to the meeting of electors. Prosecutors have separately charged Republicans who were involved in similar efforts in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada.

Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul charged Trump campaign aide Michael Roman and attorneys Kenneth Chesebro and James Troupis with one felony county of forgery each, according to online court records.

Patient Leech can be Chekov...

QTard County Clerk Sentenced to 9 Years

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
An elections manager who prosecutors say assisted in a security breach of voting equipment in a Colorado county pleaded guilty on Wednesday under a plea agreement that requires her to testify against her former boss.

Sandra Brown is one of two employees accused of helping Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters allow a copy of a hard drive to be made during an update of election equipment last year in search of proof of the false conspiracy theories spun by Donald Trump.

Brown, 45, pleaded guilty to attempting to influence a public servant—a felony—and official misconduct—a misdemeanor—but will not be sentenced until after she testifies at Peters' trial next year, so her performance on the witness stand can be considered.

Tina Peters, an acolyte of Mike Lindell, ran for secretary of state despite facing multiple felony charges and then crowdfunded a recount after losing by more than 20 points.

Tina Peters, a former Colorado county clerk who espoused the false conspiracy theory that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election due to ballot fraud, was sentenced Thursday to nine years in prison for crimes related to a breach of voting systems in her county. Peters was immediately taken into custody after Judge Matthew Barrett rejected her lawyer's request that she remain free.

"I'm convinced you do it all over again if you could," Barrett said in scathing remarks before sentencing the former Mesa County clerk. "You're as defiant a defendant as this court has ever seen," the judge said.

Peters, who had asked to be sentenced to probation, was convicted by a trial jury in August of seven criminal counts, including attempt to influence a public servant, conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, violation of duty, and failure to comply with secretary of state requirements.

Gateway Pundit Settled Defamation Suit

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
They did not know it at the time, but December 3rd 2020 was the start of a nightmare for Wandrea Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman. Later that day, the Gateway Pundit, a St. Louis-based site run by brothers Jim and James Hoft, identified Freeman as one of the election workers accused of producing and counting 18,000 hidden, fraudulent ballots from a suitcase.

"What's Up, Ruby," the site's headline read that day. "BREAKING: Crooked Operative Filmed Pulling Out Suitcases of Ballots in Georgia IS IDENTIFIED."

Freeman and Moss say the Hofts never responded to a letter demanding they retract and take down the stories. So in December 2021, the women filed a lawsuit in St. Louis Circuit Court against The Gateway Pundit for defamation and emotional distress. It is scheduled for a jury trial on May 9th.

The Gateway Pundit, the far-right news website that played a critical role in spreading false information about the 2020 election, has settled a defamation lawsuit with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, two Georgia election workers it falsely accused of wrongdoing.

Notice of the settlement was filed in circuit court in Missouri, where Freeman and Moss had sued the site for defamation. Terms of the settlement were not disclosed in the filing.

Nearly 20 articles that Freeman and Moss said had falsely accused them of wrongdoing were no longer available on The Gateway Pundit's website as of Thursday afternoon.

Gateway Pundit still faces other defamation suits. Earlier this year, the site was denied bankruptcy protection in its attempt to evade today's result.

Re: QTard County Clerk Sentenced to 9 Years

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Tina Peters, a former Colorado county clerk who espoused the false conspiracy theory that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election due to ballot fraud, was sentenced Thursday to nine years in prison for crimes related to a breach of voting systems in her county. Peters was immediately taken into custody after Judge Matthew Barrett rejected her lawyer's request that she remain free.

"I'm convinced you do it all over again if you could," Barrett said in scathing remarks before sentencing the former Mesa County clerk. "You're as defiant a defendant as this court has ever seen," the judge said.

Peters, who had asked to be sentenced to probation, was convicted by a trial jury in August of seven criminal counts, including attempt to influence a public servant, conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, violation of duty, and failure to comply with secretary of state requirements.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A postal worker and her friend were arrested Wednesday in connection with the forging of stolen mail ballots in an alleged attempt to test the security of Colorado's voting system, according to court documents.

Mail carrier Vicki Lyn Stuart and Sally Jane Maxedon were arrested on suspicion of identity theft, attempt to influence a public servant, and forgery, according to their arrest affidavits.

The investigation into the stolen and forged ballots was announced by Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold last month. According to the arrest affidavits, victims are still being located and confirmed, and investigators believe there could be over 20 people whose ballots were stolen.

Mesa County is where former county clerk Tina Peters was recently sentenced to prison for a data-breach scheme.

Maxedon is registered Republican and Stuart is an unaffiliated voter, according to voter records.

The signature verification process led to detection of the fraudulent ballots, election officials said. When they reached out to voters to fix discrepancies between the signature on the ballot envelope and the one on file, the voters said they had not received or cast a ballot. That triggered the investigation.

Investigators found Maxedon through a fingerprint on a ballot that matched one in a law enforcement database. Mesa County Clerk Bobbie Gross said the office did not open the suspect ballots and gave them to the district attorney's office.

Should men be allowed in women's sports?
Should male rapists be allowed in women's prisons only to reoffend in prison but identify as female?
Should Bruce Caitlin Jenner go on TikTok and brag about going in the women's bathroom?
Should Dylan Mulvaney make vlogs about buying tampons despite being an obvious male?
Should biologically Intersex people be lumped in the same category as these perverts?
Should people get arrested for correctly gendering a person?
Should has-been celebrities tell losers like you what to think?

Or should we go with environmentalists like RFK Jr, strong women like Tulsi Gabbard, intelligent inventors like Elon Musk and great businessmen like Donald J. Trump?

Edit: Although it is a bit odd to me to put a known anti-vaccine advocate in charge of health to make America healthy again.

That'll be the new trend among thieves.

I was just conducting an unsolicited security test of your bank vault. Good news! *Handcuffs clinking* Your bank passed our test with flying colors!

Trump won. Bash, make sure you can move to Canada where Trudeau-cuck will get wiped out next year.