Aquaman's best feats from his solo film include forcibly surfacing the submarine, jumping with no parachute from the plane into the desert, geting hit and surviving Black Manta's rock formation-busting visor beam, and getting smacked around and fighting the Karathen.
Honestly the downside for Arthur comes from his two two 1-on-1 fights with Orm. Of course Arthur bested his half-brother in the final fight, but Abomination would body Orm. Not saying Arthur does not have the durability to take some Abomination hits (he's taken some big hits, even a punch from Superman), but Abomination literally bit the grenade portion off a RPG to no effect, and once Emil gets his paws on Arthur/Arthur can't keep distance, Emil is taking him down.
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Originally posted by John Murdoch
Aquaman's best feats from his solo film include forcibly surfacing the submarine, jumping with no parachute from the plane into the desert, geting hit and surviving Black Manta's rock formation-busting visor beam, and getting smacked around and fighting the Karathen.Honestly the downside for Arthur comes from his two two 1-on-1 fights with Orm. Of course Arthur bested his half-brother in the final fight, but Abomination would body Orm. Not saying Arthur does not have the durability to take some Abomination hits (he's taken some big hits, even a punch from Superman), but Abomination literally bit the grenade portion off a RPG to no effect, and once Emil gets his paws on Arthur/Arthur can't keep distance, Emil is taking him down.
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To be fair, Manta's eyebeam hurt Aquaman badly.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And the Hypocrisy continues.You make up feats for Zod from an earlier film by what Kal can do in a later film, but those rules all go out of the window when discussing the MCU.
But Superman wasn't stronger in BvS. If he was then i wouldn't argue it. Notice how i focused on aircraft bullets which has nothing to do later films.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
Aquaman's best feats from his solo film include forcibly surfacing the submarine, jumping with no parachute from the plane into the desert, geting hit and surviving Black Manta's rock formation-busting visor beam, and getting smacked around and fighting the Karathen.Honestly the downside for Arthur comes from his two two 1-on-1 fights with Orm. Of course Arthur bested his half-brother in the final fight, but Abomination would body Orm. Not saying Arthur does not have the durability to take some Abomination hits (he's taken some big hits, even a punch from Superman), but Abomination literally bit the grenade portion off a RPG to no effect, and once Emil gets his paws on Arthur/Arthur can't keep distance, Emil is taking him down.
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So a class 40-80 can contend with a class 500,000?
Either you dismiss the submarine feat or this is a spite stomp in favor of AM.
Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, Manta's eyebeam hurt Aquaman badly.
Oh yes very true, I inferred that James Wan meant to show the M203 grenade hit first (more of a comedic relief KO - Arthur says, "Ow" after he wakes up) to show how much more serious a threat Manta and the visor beam hit were to Arthur in Round 2 after Arthur stomped Manta in Round 1.
Originally posted by h1a8
So a class 40-80 can contend with a class 500,000?
Either you dismiss the submarine feat or this is a spite stomp in favor of AM.
C'mon bro, where are we even getting such numbers from? Aquaman is one of my favorite DCEU heroes so far, if not my favorite, but the fight does not come down to a lifting competition, but also blunt force durability, piercing durability, fighting ability and style, speed, reflexes, etc. The sub feat is ridiculously high, I'm against any idea of downplaying it, but this goes beyond a lifting competition.
Let's not even get into how Emil not only scales to but outright stomped MCU Hulk until Hulk went into rage mode. The same MCU Hulk who would eventually punch-stomped a Leviathan, took thunder punches from RagnaThor and knocked Surtur back in Ragnarok. I'm not a huge proponent of scaling feats either.
I'm not saying Arthur could not win, but just that all Abom has to do is get up-close-and-personal vs. Arthur having to maintain trident distance and fighting smart. I should say that Emil has better chances and it is his fight to lose, but Arthur could still take a few out of 10.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
C'mon bro, where are we even getting such numbers from?
Those are space numbers that only exist in his world.
Aquaman is a water based character with a specific set of powers like being able to swim ridiculously fast and with a lot of power. The submarine feat was great, but it wasnt a pure lifting feat. He also had momentum from how he can travel in water (propulsion). Think Superman pushing something really heavy in space. Honestly, he wasnt lifting the sub with his arms. He was steadying it with his shoulders and hands. Like I said, if Aquaman could pick up a submarine on land, then you would have something.
Originally posted by h1a8
But Superman wasn't stronger in BvS. If he was then i wouldn't argue it. Notice how i focused on aircraft bullets which has nothing to do later films.
Nah you were making a big thing out of Kals Nuke explosion for Zod.
All Kals best strength feats are from BvS and JL. He struggled to hold an Oil rig in MOS.
Originally posted by tkitna
Its MCU Hulk.
Originally posted by Darth ThorUnless something has changed or there's been some weird mod rulling (possible, I haven't been around much), people on this forum have always treated TIH Hulk and Post-Avengers Hulk as different power levels.
It's MCU Hulk. Or am I missing something here?
It's like people arguing that Cap would beat US Agent despite Agent stomping the living shit out of both Falcon and WS (who was basically even with Cap) at the same time. The argument hinges on the character having been given better feats down the line.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah you were making a big thing out of Kals Nuke explosion for Zod.All Kals best strength feats are from BvS and JL. He struggled to hold an Oil rig in MOS.
Kal has better strength feats in MOS than in BvS.
You still claiming Superman was stronger in BvS?
What about this thread? You would say Hulk is weaker here? If so then why not address those are claiming otherwise?
Originally posted by Robtard
A comparable feat-to-feat comparison here would be the grenade launcher to the chest KO'ing Aquaman, while Abomination literally bit an RPG and smiled after. Thought the RPG would generally be more powerful than the grenade.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Can you prove Arthur is stronger underwater in the films?
I don't need to. What I will point out is that he has a propulsion system that allows him to travel at super speed in water that he doesn't have outside of water. It's this super propulsion he was using to lift that submarine.