No dog in this fight, and Abom should definitely win(although Shang Chi might make him job a bit to Wong) but wouldn't he have to be? For him to be able to push a 50,000 ton or however big it is sub to the surface with no help from it's engines as fast as he did? Either Atlantean thrust is insane or he's way stronger underwater than above it going by how most other "super strong" people in the DCU are his superior like Superman, Steppenwolf and Diana.
Originally posted by KingD19
No dog in this fight, and Abom should definitely win(although Shang Chi might make him job a bit to Wong) but wouldn't he have to be? For him to be able to push a 50,000 ton or however big it is sub to the surface with no help from it's engines as fast as he did? Either Atlantean thrust is insane or he's way stronger underwater than above it going by how most other "super strong" people in the DCU are his superior like Superman, Steppenwolf and Diana.
He was braced under the sub but he wasn't pushing it up and down (via muscles). It's not like he was military pressing the thing or squatting it up and down.
So yeah sure, strength plays a part there, but it's also more durability.
Think about it this way: I can squat only about 250 lbs (plus my own weight) but if all I'm going to do is stand there while you load weights on my shoulders, I can easily support twice that amount of weight and more, especially if I'm allowed to sit down and take the weight off my legs. Then it becomes more a question of how much weight your skeletal structure can handle rather than how much weight your muscles can lift.
As long as Aquaman was durable enough that he doesn't crumple under the weight of the sub coupled with the velocity he was pushing it, then his propulsion would be doing majority of the work.
Note that I'm not saying he doesn't need super strength to pull that feat off. I'm saying it's something he was only able to pull off because of his underwater propulsion.
Originally posted by FrothByteIt's speculation that he has a propulsion system instead of using physical strength to swim.
I don't need to. What I will point out is that he has a propulsion system that allows him to travel at super speed in water that he doesn't have outside of water. It's this super propulsion he was using to lift that submarine.
Does Norton Hulk have any strength feats greater than snapping a chain of the size he used on Abom?
If not then both of their strengths are below that of ripping that chain.
And using tissue paper to fight with is also an indication of strength levels.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman struggling with an oil tanker doesn't contradict that he has greater strength feats in MOS than in BvS.
Of course it does. That was an actual on screen struggle. Unlike the one you're making up for Abomination.
There was no major strength feat in MOS as far as I can recall.
Originally posted by h1a8Does Norton Hulk have any strength feats greater than snapping a chain of the size he used on Abom?
Did Zod have any?
Your double standards are just sad at this point.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't need to. What I will point out is that he has a propulsion system that allows him to travel at super speed in water that he doesn't have outside of water. It's this super propulsion he was using to lift that submarine.
This is correct, Atlanteans have some manner of underwater jet-like propulsion.
The sub lift is still an impressive feat though.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course it does. That was an actual on screen struggle. Unlike the one you're making up for Abomination.There was no major strength feat in MOS as far as I can recall.
Did Zod have any?
Your double standards are just sad at this point.
There are strength feats greater in MOS than in BvS. Superman punches, world engine feat, etc.
Zod uppercut Superman to the top of a skyscraper. Superman still had enough velocity to shatter the top of the building.
Originally posted by h1a8
There are strength feats greater in MOS than in BvS. Superman punches, world engine feat, etc.
Striking feat. Flight, technique involved e.t.c.
Originally posted by h1a8Zod uppercut Superman to the top of a skyscraper. Superman still had enough velocity to shatter the top of the building.
Lame.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If Superman had performed the Bi-Frost, Sokovia, neutron star etc etc etc feats. H1 would be saying they prove Superman >>>>>>>>>> Marvel.
That goes without saying.
Hes clearly not a debater. Hes a propagandist. But he wouldnt do well in Religion given hes not converted even 1 person into believing his head canon. And hes been at it for years.