Originally posted by carver9
Reread that post you're quoting. The thread you're using from Galan, Dark was even asking to put it in the rules. He's asking that for a reason.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But Im asking you why it isnt acceptable? Since you said in other thread that you need on panel proofs. And like Galan pointed out now most material seems to paint that picture( Death Metal, Superman Red/Blue etc)
Because NONE of these characters are as powerful as their Pre Crisis selves. Not one. Captain Marvel, Superman, Black Adam, Darkseid, Lanterns, none of them are close to being at that level of power. It's just that simple. Pre Crisis Superman would steam roll most of the people current Supes is having fits with and easily.
Originally posted by carver9
No and all the mods need to do is make it a rule and we will have pre crisis Black Adam, Darkseid, Mongul, Wonder Woman and Superman roaming KMC. It's a simple process. The only thing that can challenge DC is DC characters. It would be pointless pitting a Marvel and DC character against each other. Beings like Darkseid, Superman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, the Lanterns, all of them would be irrelevant on the forum due to their pre crisis fts being so childish.
Originally posted by lawest9
Ahhh........VERY interesting to read you describe DC's pre crisis feats as "childish", if any of them were done by your boy Hulk, you would be singing his praises on every thread on kmc, no one could tell you nothing much like now but you would truly be out of hand, you can't have it both ways buddy. 🤣🤣🤣
Crazy thing is, in most of Hulk threads, I never mention his crazy fts. The only time I do is when people use ridiculous fts for their characters. I don't use crazy showings for Hulk. I lean strictly on his combat showings. I don't need to mention him over powering an abstract, destroying a Universe, punching a continent size ship across space or bending adamantium. His fights are sufficient. You all are the ones that get desperate during debates. Not me
Originally posted by carver9
Because NONE of these characters are as powerful as their Pre Crisis selves. Not one. Captain Marvel, Superman, Black Adam, Darkseid, Lanterns, none of them are close to being at that level of power. It's just that simple. Pre Crisis Superman would steam roll most of the people current Supes is having fits with and easily.
Originally posted by carver9
No and all the mods need to do is make it a rule and we will have pre crisis Black Adam, Darkseid, Mongul, Wonder Woman and Superman roaming KMC. It's a simple process. The only thing that can challenge DC is DC characters. It would be pointless pitting a Marvel and DC character against each other. Beings like Darkseid, Superman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, the Lanterns, all of them would be irrelevant on the forum due to their pre crisis fts being so childish.
Sounds you also have an obvious agenda like the one you trying to accuse DS
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So youre basically saying 'no, it isnt usable because if so DC characters would be too powerful !!!'Sounds you also have an obvious agenda like the one you trying to accuse DS
How did you misunderstand that entire post? PreCrisis...characters...are...more...powerful...than...current...characters. You're trying to give weaker characters fts from more powerful characters. How does this even make sense? Lol. Captain Marvel vs Thanos. Carver9 "Thanos wins".qwertyuiop1998 steps in, "no he doesn't win because even though current Captain Marvel is weak, I got a scan of PreCrisis Captain Marvel stalemating PreCrisis Supes". Carver9 "but he isn't that powerful now". qwertyuiop1998 "he doesn't need to be that powerful now. Yes, he's weak AF in his recent showings. I'm talking about Wonderman level weak but as long as I got PreCrisis scans backing my case, no matter how weak he is today, i can pull showings from far more powerful versions of his and he can stomp anyone you can name in Marvel". Carver9, "ok" 😕
Originally posted by carver9
Crazy thing is, in most of Hulk threads, I never mention his crazy fts. The only time I do is when people use ridiculous fts for their characters. I don't use crazy showings for Hulk. I lean strictly on his combat showings. I don't need to mention him over powering an abstract, destroying a Universe, punching a continent size ship across space or bending adamantium. His fights are sufficient. You all are the ones that get desperate during debates. Not me
Originally posted by carver9
How did you misunderstand that entire post? PreCrisis...characters...are...more...powerful...than...current...characters. You're trying to give weaker characters fts from more powerful characters. How does this even make sense? Lol. Captain Marvel vs Thanos. Carver9 "Thanos wins".qwertyuiop1998 steps in, "no he doesn't win because even though current Captain Marvel is weak, I got a scan of PreCrisis Captain Marvel stalemating PreCrisis Supes". Carver9 "but he isn't that powerful now". qwertyuiop1998 "he doesn't need to be that powerful now. Yes, he's weak AF in his recent showings. I'm talking about Wonderman level weak but as long as I got PreCrisis scans backing my case, no matter how weak he is today, i can pull showings from far more powerful versions of his and he can stomp anyone you can name in Marvel". Carver9, "ok" 😕
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But Im asking you why it isnt usable, Like you admitted you did sometimes use Hulk crazy feats. It obvious for you that these 'crazy feats' are usable for Hulk, But somehow you trying to argue DC characters cant use their own 'crazy feats'?
Without Pre Crisis showings, Superman doesn't have crazy fts? Are you not the same guy who just made an exotic thread for Superman? Helllloooooo!!! This seems more like desperation than anything tbh. Question since you keep mentioning Hulk, does Superman need his pre crisis fts to beat him?
Originally posted by carver9
Without Pre Crisis showings, Superman doesn't have crazy fts? Are you not the same guy who just made an exotic thread for Superman? Helllloooooo!!! This seems more like desperation than anything tbh. Question since you keep mentioning Hulk, does Superman need his pre crisis fts to beat him?
You deem precrisis showings arent usable because they are 'crazy showings' for DC characters. But at the same time you still will use 'crazy showings' for Hulk. It literally sounds like a double standard
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol I never argue Superman doesnt have crazy things. We are arguing your double standard here.You deem precrisis showings arent usable because they are 'crazy showings' for DC characters. But at the same time you still will use 'crazy showings' for Hulk. It literally sounds like a double standard
I never said that it's unusable because it's crazy showings for the characters. Why are you not reading my posts? If you are reading it, why are you struggling to comprehend basic words. This is the 5th time I'm saying this, maybe if I write it in Cap lock you'll see it. CURRENT CHARACTERS, EXAMPLES BEING, BLACK ADAM AND CAPTAIN MARVEL DO NOT COMPARE POWER WISE TO THEIR PRE CRISIS COUNTERPARTS. THE POWER DIFFERENCE IS HUMONGOUS. USING PRE CRISIS SHOWINGS FOR THESE CHARACTERS DOESNT MAKE ONE BIT OF SENSE. ITS LIKE USING SUN DIP SUPERMAN SHOWINGS FOR STANDARD SUPES. IM NOT SAYING THE FTS ARE SILLY SO IT SHOULD NOT BE USED, IM SAYING THE POWER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRE CRISIS CHARACTERS AND CURRENT CHARACTERS ARE SO BIG THAT IT DOESNT MAKE ONE BIT OF SENSE FOR ME TO USE PRE CRISIS CAPTAIN MARVEL PUSHING A PLANET WHEN WE ALL KNOW HIS CURRENT SELF WOULD STRUGGLE LIFTING A CITY.
DO YOU GET IT NOW OR ARE YOU STILL STRUGGLING?
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that it's unusable because it's crazy showings for the characters. Why are you not reading my posts? If you are reading it, why are you struggling to comprehend basic words. This is the 5th time I'm saying this, maybe if I write it in Cap lock you'll see it. CURRENT CHARACTERS, EXAMPLES BEING, BLACK ADAM AND CAPTAIN MARVEL DO NOT COMPARE POWER WISE TO THEIR PRE CRISIS COUNTERPARTS. THE POWER DIFFERENCE IS HUMONGOUS. USING PRE CRISIS SHOWINGS FOR THESE CHARACTERS DOESNT MAKE ONE BIT OF SENSE. ITS LIKE USING SUN DIP SUPERMAN SHOWINGS FOR STANDARD SUPES. IM NOT SAYING THE FTS ARE SILLY SO IT SHOULD NOT BE USED, IM SAYING THE POWER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRE CRISIS CHARACTERS AND CURRENT CHARACTERS ARE SO BIG THAT IT DOESNT MAKE ONE BIT OF SENSE FOR ME TO USE PRE CRISIS CAPTAIN MARVEL PUSHING A PLANET WHEN WE ALL KNOW HIS CURRENT SELF WOULD STRUGGLE LIFTING A CITY.DO YOU GET IT NOW OR ARE YOU STILL STRUGGLING?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So what do you think the gap between Hulk's ridiculously crazy showings and Hulk's mediocre showings? Is Hulk usually operating at his ridiculously powerful levels?
Current Hulk is FAR more powerful than his classic self. Even weaknesses he had in the past are gone, like radiation and gas. He's stronger, faster, more durable and FAR more formidable. Ironman back then could give Hulk a fight, Ironman now punches doesn't even make Hulk flinch. Wolverine, Thing, Wonderman, Thor, Hercules, all of them were a fight to classic Hulk. Current Hulk, it requires a team to fight him that consist of the characters I've named and even then, he still stomps. Hulk has received over 9 upgrades and just received another amp. So yes, mentioning classic showings for Current Hulk is laughable since Current Hulk is LEAGUES above Classic Hulk in power. Any other questions?
Originally posted by carver9
Current Hulk is FAR more powerful than his classic self. Even weaknesses he had in the past are gone, like radiation and gas. He's stronger, faster, more durable and FAR more formidable. Ironman back then could give Hulk a fight, Ironman now punches doesn't even make Hulk flinch. Wolverine, Thing, Wonderman, Thor, Hercules, all of them were a fight to classic Hulk. Current Hulk, it requires a team to fight him that consist of the characters I've named and even then, he still stomps. Hulk has received over 9 upgrades and just received another amp. So yes, mentioning classic showings for Current Hulk is laughable since Current Hulk is LEAGUES above Classic Hulk in power. Any other questions?
Wait
So yes, mentioning classic showings for Current Hulk
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? The showings I mentioned happened recently . Are you ok? Lol.
Anyway, So youre saying Hulk usually operating at the ridiculous levels you mentioned based on... Scaling? I mean, Superman in rebirth stomped Supergirl and Shazam casually. And Hal also has received multiple upgrades in continuity etc
So again, Why precrisis feats arent canon/usable due to they're crazy showings while you still use Hulk's crazy showings
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wait😕
Anyway, So youre saying Hulk usually operating at the ridiculous levels you mentioned based on... Scaling? I mean, Superman in rebirth stomped Supergirl and Shazam casually. And Hal also has received multiple upgrades in continuity etc
So again, Why precrisis feats arent canon/usable due to they're crazy showings while you still use Hulk's crazy showings
Don't understand why you're confused but ok.
Superman recent showings are why I think he is one of the few that can match Hulk. Superman Pre Crisis fts, I feel he would rip Hulk to shreds. Pre Crisis Supes>>>>Current Supes. Example, Superman said it took all of his strength to move a planet a few kilometers. Pre Crisis Superman could move 12 plus planets across a solar system without strain. Difference in power.
You're still mentioning crazy showings. I'm not answering your last question. I think you're either intoxicated or sleepy. Get offline for a bit and reread these statements in the morning.