So there isn't a difference between Batman and Mongul? Obviously one scene is capable of happening and one scene isn't. You're a smart guy, so you should know which scene is more accurate. Unless you think every showing involving Superman being hurt or being unable to hurt someone is all PIS (I feel certain you do, lol).
Originally posted by carver9
So there isn't a difference between Batman and Mongul? Obviously one scene is capable of happening and one scene isn't. You're a smart guy, so you should know which scene is more accurate. Unless you think every showing involving Superman being hurt or being unable to hurt someone is all PIS (I feel certain you do, lol).
They're all fictional, no?
Hulk can do crazy things, despite just being a superstring flightless brick.
Batman can do crazy things, despite being just a human.
Spiderman can budge the Hulk, despite being a meta.
Unless you look at Superman's best showings, and say well he did that against Mongul and Mongul just laughed it off - does that not sound crazy?
Or is Mongul that uber? Because guess who is going to pop up against Mongul....yup, Batman, lmao.
So you tell me. Did Superman do his best against Mongul? You know Superman's best feats. Are they the same?
Originally posted by carver9
And it took multiple punches for Pre Crisis Superman to do that whereas Cyborg treated him like fodder.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman on panel admitted he gave it everything he got and still did nothing.Same scans you're claiming he got lucky, Superman still got ktfo and couldn't repeat the results, even after sneak attacking him and Mongul before he showed up and during the fight was going against Superman and an entire planet.
Good showing for Pre Crisis Superman. Sadly, he have showing of getting curbed by Mongul. There's no way around this.
Also I want to know where did the scans state Superman couldnt repeat the results
So are you trying to say Warworld is a weapon that Superman used?
Originally posted by carver9
What do you mean? He was serious when he admitted he gave Mongul his best (that did absolutely nothing).
Are you referring to these scans.
https://ibb.co/wJ0fLLX
https://ibb.co/Drbp8hc
Oops 🙄
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They're all fictional, no?Hulk can do crazy things, despite just being a superstring flightless brick.
Batman can do crazy things, despite being just a human.
Spiderman can budge the Hulk, despite being a meta.
Unless you look at Superman's best showings, and say well he did that against Mongul and Mongul just laughed it off - does that not sound crazy?
Or is Mongul that uber? Because guess who is going to pop up against Mongul....yup, Batman, lmao.
So you tell me. Did Superman do his best against Mongul? You know Superman's best feats. Are they the same?
What im telling you is that as shown on panel and stated by Superman, he gave Mongul his best shot and it did absolutely nothing. I'm not ignoring on panel showings. This is how YOU debate. Just like I didn't ignore Black Panther having weapons that can lop Hulk arm off. It happened on panel and its a freaking excuse ignoring on panel showing from characters that are capable of achieving said ft. How about this, I'll ignore this if you ignore Superman knocking down World Forger. He's a multiversal level being, are we suppose to ignore this and accept Superman being able to knock him over? How far does this ignore thing go, Saint?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Can you post scans that state Superman gave his best and Mongul completely unharmed by said attacks?Are you referring to these scans.
https://ibb.co/wJ0fLLX
https://ibb.co/Drbp8hcOops 🙄
Obviously more took place during that fight instead of that punch you just showed... 😂
Didn't War world also explode on Mongul?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Cyborg beat this version of Mongul? Scans, PleaseCarver, Can you read?
https://ibb.co/840m6WgAlso I want to know where did the scans state Superman couldnt repeat the results
So are you trying to say Warworld is a weapon that Superman used?
Did Superman get knocked out, yes or no? So you want to accept the statement of Mongul getting lucky but you want to ignore Superman admitting he gave his best. Is this how Superman fans debate. They only accept the good while ignoring everything else that goes against the character?
Originally posted by carver9
What im telling you is that as shown on panel and stated by Superman, he gave Mongul his best shot and it did absolutely nothing. I'm not ignoring on panel showings. This is how YOU debate. Just like I didn't ignore Black Panther having weapons that can lop Hulk arm off. It happened on panel and its a freaking excuse ignoring on panel showing from characters that are capable of achieving said ft. How about this, I'll ignore this if you ignore Superman knocking down World Forger. He's a multiversal level being, are we suppose to ignore this and accept Superman being able to knock him over? How far does this ignore thing go, Saint?
And on panel, Spiderman as budged Hulk, easily. Yet you just handwaved it away when Magnon brought it up. As seen in my use of your own words, lmao.
Strange, that.
You forget that Superman had been sundipped 😂
But let's bring it back to the thread.
Here is the Living Tribunal, meting out his ultimate punishment, a supernova:
We don't ignore showings, amirite? So the 2nd greatest power in Marvel, the LT, can only do a supernova?
Then runs like a b!tch when Korvac shielded Earth? Man, that's weak.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And on panel, Spiderman as budged Hulk, easily. Yet you just handwaved it away when Magnon brought it up. As seen in my use of your own words, lmao.Strange, that.
You forget that Superman had been sundipped 😂
He probably did budge a non-angry Hulk. I have no problems with that, especially since Hulk has become far more powerful since then and why are you comparing Spiderman with Mongul? Why do you reach for the lowest of lows to prove a point? It's sad tbh. Find us some batman scans
Superman did Sun dip and doesn't have a single showing before this taking out a multiversal being. His best showing is against War World/imperiex who should be far less powerful than World Forger and he had to bfr him to win.
World Forger is a multiversal level being, so I'm guessing we can scratch out his Mongul and World Forger showing. Let's play the scratch out game. You don't like the fact the Mongul took Supermans best and I don't like that Superman knocked over World Forger.
Originally posted by carver9
Obviously more took place during that fight instead of that punch you just showed... 😂Didn't War world also explode on Mongul?
And Superman was at the center of Warworld and was being attacked by Warworld's weaponry moments before it exploded
https://ibb.co/z57fZxj
https://ibb.co/HGS29jM
https://ibb.co/fQc04nb
Or are you trying to say Superman is so above Mongul not only took an explosion that damanged Mongul at the ground zero but also managed to beat Mongul later, Which is what happened in the comic 😄
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So are you saying Superman didnt actually go-all-out when you said Superman gave his best to punch Mongul?And Superman was at the center of Warworld and was being attacked by Warworld's weaponry moments before it exploded
https://ibb.co/z57fZxj
https://ibb.co/HGS29jM
https://ibb.co/fQc04nbOr are you trying to say Superman is so above Mongul not only took an explosion that damanged Mongul at the ground zero but also managed to beat Mongul later, Which is what happened in the comic 😄
I'm saying per Superman own words, he gave Mongul his best and failed, lol. 😂
Yes, both took the explosion, Superman got up and punched Mongul first. There's more to the scene than what you're pointing out. I'm sure you have other scans you can use.
Originally posted by carver9
Did Superman get knocked out, yes or no? So you want to accept the statement of Mongul getting lucky but you want to ignore Superman admitting he gave his best. Is this how Superman fans debate. They only accept the good while ignoring everything else that goes against the character?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Plus this Mongul just got lucky when he knocked out Superman
https://ibb.co/LQ2gyTVIn a normal circumstance, Superman stomped this Mongul as showed in later story
Also even lets assume what you said is true. The difference is:
1 Superman said he gave his best but failed to damage Mongul, But what happened next is Superman did damage Mongul and even beat him
2 Superman said Mongul got lucky to knock him out, What happened next is in a normal circumstance Superman beat Mongul who even used Warworld in order to defeat Superman
Originally posted by carver9
He probably did budge a non-angry Hulk. I have no problems with that, especially since Hulk has become far more powerful since then and why are you comparing Spiderman with Mongul? Why do you reach for the lowest of lows to prove a point? It's sad tbh. Find us some batman scansSuperman did Sun dip and doesn't have a single showing before this taking out a multiversal being. His best showing is against War World who should be far less powerful than World Forger and he had to bfr him to win.
World Forger is a multiversal level being, so I'm guessing we can scratch out his Mongul and World Forger showing. Let's play the scratch put game. You don't like the fact the Mongul took Supermans best and I don't like that Superman knocked over World Forger.
I'm not saying I don't like the Mongul showing - where did you get that? As I said, its comics, and crazy things (like Cable failing to budge Hulk lmao) happens.
Originally posted by carver9
Nice scan Dark. Since the World Forger showing doesn't count, Superman can't scratch LT.
Why not?
Originally posted by carver9
I'm saying per Superman own words, he gave Mongul his best and failed, lol. 😂Yes, both took the explosion, Superman got up and punched Mongul first. There's more to the scene than what you're pointing out. I'm sure you have other scans you can use.
Ehhh, That doesnt look like a scenario of Superman punching Mongul before he could react. More like Superman fighting Mongul, and evenually, winning.
But I think we both agree Superman performed far better than Wonder Woman who completely got owned by Mongul
And Wonder Woman> Hulk per your own words😆
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you are trying to say Superman could beat Mongul because he punched Mongul before he could react? Lets look what the comic depicted, Shall we?
https://ibb.co/NFXTR93
https://ibb.co/HPTr5t8Ehhh, That doesnt look like a scenario of Superman punching Mongul before he could react. More like Superman fighting Mongul, and evenually, winning.
But I think we both agree Superman performed far better than Wonder Woman who completely got owned by Mongul
And Wonder Woman> Hulk per your own words😆
I'm telling you that more took place during that fight. Also, the area where Superman was when the explosion happened was still intact. I feel certain Superman didn't take the brunt of the explosion like Mongul did.
In a long fight, Pre Crisis Superman can beat Mongul (terrible).
Yes, Superman performed better against Mongul than Wonder Woman. Luckily Wonder Woman have showings of defeating an amped Pre Crisis Superman, wrecking pre crisis Black Adam, performing well against Pre Crisis Darkseid, stomping Pre Crisis Supergirl, withstanding a beat down from an amped Pre Crisis Supergirl, stomping Pre Crisis Lantern and stomping Pre Crisis Zod and Faora.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not saying I don't like the Mongul showing - where did you get that? As I said, its comics, and crazy things (like Cable failing to budge Hulk lmao) happens.Why not?
Nothing crazy about Mongul enduring Supermans best. You do know that won't be the last time it will happen, right? Also, there are other showings that line up with this as well. Are you throwing the Damage vs Superman fight out as well? Good luck on just accepting fts you like and discrediting showings you don't like.
Lol.. I thought we were playing the scratch out game. Mongul showing doesn't count, World Forger showing doesn't count? Is this not what we are doing?
Originally posted by carver9are you already drunk? It's way too early in the morning, lmao.
Nothing crazy about Mongul enduring Supermans best. You do know that won't be the last time it will happen, right? Also, there are other showings that line up with this as well. Are you throwing the Damage vs Superman fight out as well? Good luck on just accepting fts you like and discrediting showings you don't like.Lol.. I thought we were playing the scratch out game. Mongul showing doesn't count, World Forger showing doesn't count? Is this not what we are doing?
The Damage 'fight' was Superman trying to hold Damage in place until his timer ran out. You are all over the place today lol.
What does that have to do with LT? He got killed by 3 Beyonders, countless Beyonders who got steamrolled (as per Galan) by Thor and Hyperion lol.
And LTs ultimate judgement is an attack that's just a nova, not even a supernova 😂
Who said we were playing a scratching game? Are you ok?