What if...? (Disney+)

I can not find the original thread, but if it can be found then please merge.

First episode was a great throwback to first avenger,,I liked it

They all gonna be completely different right ? In which case I might as well just watch. No need to wait and binge this one.

Meh, they are playing it too safe for my taste.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They all gonna be completely different right ? In which case I might as well just watch. No need to wait and binge this one.

I believe so

Not sure if it's because it's animated or because Peggy wasn't sickly, like Steve was, when she took the serum,

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but she seemed a lot more powerful than any of the other super soldiers we've had so far. She was casually making like 100-foot leaps, stopping speeding trucks dead in their tracks (which would have an insane impact force well beyond the actual mass of the truck) and even forced that big-ass tentacle monster back through the portal at the end of the episode. She's also the only one other than Steve to gain a bunch of height and muscle during the process.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not sure if it's because it's animated or because Peggy wasn't sickly, like Steve was, when she took the serum,

Spoiler:
but she seemed a lot more powerful than any of the other super soldiers we've had so far. She was casually making like 100-foot leaps, stopping speeding trucks dead in their tracks (which would have an insane impact force well beyond the actual mass of the truck) and even forced that big-ass tentacle monster back through the portal at the end of the episode. She's also the only one other than Steve to gain a bunch of height and muscle during the process.

Also, a dead porn meme is now really getting mileage from this

You promised me more than a dance🤣🤣

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Well I think its also because its animated it needs less budget to show super stuff
And making a female heroine look weaker in any compariaon would piss off SjWs

Also, a dead porn meme is now really getting mileage from this

You promised me more than a dance🤣🤣

The thing is

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some of the feats directly contradict what we've seen from super soldiers in the films and shows in terms of their limits, and by some margin too.

The only canonical explanation that makes sense to me is that, as I mentioned, Peggy was already an athletic woman in her prime whereas Steve was... Steve. So, she ended up more uber than the other super soldiers. Similar to how US Agent seemed physically superior to the other super soldiers that took the same serum he did after having basically been a virtual peak human to begin with. Because, as also previously mentioned, she's the only one other than Steve to also undergo a significant physical transformation. And she's also the only other one to go through the whole special chamber/vita ray process.

But I think Winter Soldier is also supposed to rock up in a What If at some point, so we'll get a better idea then. If he also outperforms his live-action feats then we can chalk it up to the animation. If his feats are in line with his previous showings, then we know Peggy is just OP.

I didn't really get any major SJW vibes from the episode though. There were some sexist comments directed at Peggy, but those kinds of comments are actually pretty accurate for the era it's set in.

Also, I think there will be at least some loose connection between some of the episodes, based on a few things in the trailer, like

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a version of Dr Strange meeting Captain Carter, which doesn't happen in the first episode.

Female Character = mention SJW. Is it needed?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Also, I think there will be at least some loose connection between some of the episodes, based on a few things in the trailer,

Ah thanks for the heads up. Prefer to wait and binge in that case.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Meh, they are playing it too safe for my taste.

Agreed. They should really let it fly with a blank slate like this.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Also, I think there will be at least some loose connection between some of the episodes, based on a few things in the trailer, like

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a version of Dr Strange meeting Captain Carter, which doesn't happen in the first episode.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Another explanation is that the alt univ serum is better. For example in the comics proper there sre various serums, some boost you upto spider man level strength

That

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directly contradicts what is stated in the show though. The Watcher who narrates says that the only difference between that timeline and the main one is a choice Peggy made to stay in the room, which resulted in how events unfolded in that room changing. Everything else is the same.

So, either it's a massive inconsistency or it's down to some element of Peggy going through the process rather than Steve. One thing that kind of lends it to being Peggy, at least so far, is at the end of the episode. There's a giant, inter-dimensional tentacle monster that comes through a portal and casually crushes Red Skull, killing him despite him also being enhanced, yet Peggy can withstand being smacked, squeezed and slammed by it repeatedly without taking any kind of visible damage.

But, as I said, it should become more clear once we get other super soldiers making an appearance so that we can compare.

A skinny guy hooking up with a masculine woman. Something maybe 5 people in the audiience want to see.

Thors episode should generate lots of debate.

I found the first episode pretty entertaining.

And yeah Captain Carter was proper OP. Which I also digged tbh.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I found the first episode pretty entertaining.

And yeah Captain Carter was proper OP. Which I also digged tbh.

Yeah, I honestly don't mind her being so powerful either. I did see a few insecure guys crying about it on a few sites, but those people always find something to complain about anyways.

I'm still not sure whether it's meant to be that way or just more inconsistency from the Disney Plus stuff though. Because power level consistency has been an issue so far in some of these shows. But it should become clearer once we see more.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, I honestly don't mind her being so powerful either. I did see a few insecure guys crying about it on a few sites, but those people always find something to complain about anyways.

I'm still not sure whether it's meant to be that way or just more inconsistency from the Disney Plus stuff though. Because power level consistency has been an issue so far in some of these shows. But it should become clearer once we see more.

Well it made sense to me. Because even without the serum she can take out multiple agents (if youve seen the Agent Carter show).

But its also a good point that this is animated, so will see how consistent with the movies all the other superheroes are.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well it made sense to me. Because even without the serum she can take out multiple agents (if youve seen the Agent Carter show).

But its also a good point that this is animated, so will see how consistent with the movies all the other superheroes are.

Well, that's my interpretation so far. Steve/Peggy's super soldier process was both unique in the implementation and the outcome (the added size and muscle), so if it turns a sickly guy like Steve into Cap, an athletic women in her prime basically becomes Wonder Woman lite.

But yeah, based on the trailer, we're getting Killmonger and apparently Winter Soldier (it will be interesting to see how that came about), so we'll have stuff to compare to their film counterparts.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
so if it turns a sickly guy like Steve into Cap, an athletic women in her prime basically becomes Wonder Woman lite.

Yeah especially an athletic woman who was already pretty hardcore.

Will wait and see how consistent they stay with the animation. Although you made a great point how that same monster she fought back crushed Red Skull pretty easily.