Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah I felt like they were poking fun atSpoiler:
Thanos big plot in the films. Also he wasnt that OP. Although he did leap to the ship. In any case, he fought without his sword or any power stones in this, so that clearly makes a difference
I'm not the only one though.
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I've seen a lot of people on different sites comment on how nerfed he seemed. In Endgame, Thor, IM and Captain America struggled to even land hits, despite fighting him 3-on-1. And in IW, when he didn't have his armor or sword, he was tanking attacks like getting smashed by buildings, rammed by space ships, sword slashes from Drax, Nebula, explosions and blasts etc. without real issue. Now, he's so weak that Proxima can KO him with an AOE attack that he isn't even the sole focus of.And that's my point. Thanos was the Big Bad for the first few MCU phases and now he's been reduced to a borderline comic-relief sidekick and the plan that resulted in the death of Iron Man, Black Widow, numerous Asgardians etc. is treated like a joke.
Though I think they wanted to get the Thanos threat out of the picture because, depending on if they continue that story thread, they want to focus on Ego. Because let's be real. There was so much plot and ridiculous odds in the Guardians being able to beat him that he should be a far bigger threat than he came across as. I mean they just so happened to have another cosmic opponent who can keep him busy (Cosmic Star-Lord), someone to tell them exactly what his weakness was, where it was and to temporarily KO him (Mantis), the means to kill him (the uber explosives Rocket stole from their previous mission), and the right sized character to deliver the payload (Baby Groot). If they'd missed even one of those elements they probably would have failed and died.
Oh he was certainly nerfed in this. I was shocked myself that 2 of his
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henchmen
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sword or not. I mean he did stomp Hulk without his sword
But I suppose in this alternate reality he just may not be up to scratch combat wise. Although that seems strange given his physical shape and how long hes been a combatant.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI kind of see what you're saying, but as is the case with the comics, you can't compare alternate "What If..?" characters to their mainstream incarnations. They are, in essence, entirely different beings.
Of course. Just if they are trying to say hes innately pure goodness as a person, then maybe they shouldnt forget that.
In the mainstream MCU, an adult T'Challa saw his father die right before his eyes and believed Bucky was the culprit, so he began seeking revenge... But by the end of the film, T'Challa realized the error of his ways, dropped his lust for revenge, and moved forward.
In this world/universe, however, that never happened. T'Challa was taken from earth as a child and apparently had a very good upbringing, wherein he devoted his life to the betterment of the galaxy/universe... And evidently did a damn good job.
Completely different character histories here.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
But is he? I know thats how hes portrayed here. But lets not forget Civil War he was going to kill Bucky first and ask questions later.He had to go through his own Heroes Journey in that to change for the better.
Oh yeah, he was a total Mary Sue.
They laid it on so thick how much of a perfect hero he is compared to Peter Quill, I think they were trolling to some extent.
Btw, anyone else catch the Robin Hood joke. "Robin leech."
As in, the poor leeching off the rich? No way that word was random.
Originally posted by cdtm
Oh yeah, he was a total Mary Sue.They laid it on so thick how much of a perfect hero he is compared to Peter Quill, I think they were trolling to some extent.
Btw, anyone else catch the Robin Hood joke. "Robin [b]leech.
"As in, the poor leeching off the rich? No way that word was random. [/B]
Or Robin Leach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyles_of_the_Rich_and_Famous
Originally posted by Robtard
TBF, if T'Challa were that inherently good, he'd had abdicated his throne and turned Wakanda into a democracy by the people; for the people. Kings are dictators.
The thought had occured to me.
But he's so ridiculously good in this story, what's one relatively benign character flaw?
Originally posted by cdtm
The thought had occured to me.But he's so ridiculously good in this story, what's one relatively benign character flaw?
Two.
Dont forget out to murder Bucky for his Dads death without even knowing for sure, and refusing to hear Bucky out.
Unless Robtards referring to the alternate reality only.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh yeah. He was OP ! But In a really satisfying way.
I don't know if he was really OP or if we just have lower expectations of him after his treatment in some of his more recent live action appearances. Because even before
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his solo show took a dump on him, Loki was useless in Infinity War as well and got killed like fodder. Even Cap and Spider-Man took more punishment and survived. Hell, Thanos even chokes Peter at one point during the Titan battle and doesn't cause a lasting injury, never mind breaking his neck like he did with Loki. The writers have just treated him really badly in recent times, so it's nice to see him at his best again. After all, this was someone who was a big bad himself at one point and the reason the Avengers were brought together.
^ I mean absolutely stomping
Spoiler:like that is pretty OP I think. That's the kind of strength we knew he had in the earlier films.
Ant-Man
His
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illusions
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Mysterio
Probably the
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