Originally posted by Blakemore
Bush was most likely not involved. On the day, he was sent to babysit some poor black children while Cheney was in charge of the Air Force. You’re not trying hard enough.
I'm amazed at just how dumb you are.... smh.
I think you have destroyed way too many brain cells with all that alcohol you drink.
Originally posted by cdtm
It was either a strategy of shutting down friendlies or of sitting on our hands and waiting on the next attack.
OR Just pulling out of the Middle East including support for Israel, so those Muslims have no reason to attack you.
Unfortunately all we did was invade more Muslim countries thereby creating ISIS. A group that make Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain seem like moderates by comparison.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
OR Just pulling out of the Middle East including support for Israel, so those Muslims have no reason to attack you.Unfortunately all we did was invade more Muslim countries thereby creating ISIS. A group that make Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain seem like moderates by comparison.
Sure, lets just abandon an ally to mass slaughter.
If only the Israeli's laid down and died instead of fighting back, amiright?
Originally posted by cdtm
Sure, lets just abandon an ally to mass slaughter.If only the Israeli's laid down and died instead of fighting back, amiright?
Yeah, how dare they fight for their right to exist as a nation.
Bastards. 😠
And how dare we Americans lend a helping hand to our ally who is surrounded by enemies who all want them wiped off the face of the earth. 🙄
Originally posted by cdtm
Sure, lets just abandon an ally to mass slaughter.If only the Israeli's laid down and died instead of fighting back, amiright?
Fighting back? Are you high? It was formed less than 100 years ago in the centre of the Middle East. I.e. the Arab world.
Also I noticed you just focused on that part, yet ignored the part about withdrawing troops from the arab world, and putting an end to American imperialism. But instead you seem to have supported invading more countries thereby creating groups much worse, as if there was no other choice? Weird.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And how dare we Americans lend a helping hand to our ally who is surrounded by enemies who all want them wiped off the face of the earth. 🙄
Hmm and I wonder how they ended up surrounded by enemies...
This isn't hard folks. If you just decide to open up your eyes.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Fighting back? Are you high? It was formed less than 100 years ago in the centre of the Middle East. I.e. the Arab world.Also I noticed you just focused on that part, yet ignored the part about withdrawing troops from the arab world, and putting an end to American imperialism. But instead you seem to have supported invading more countries thereby creating groups much worse, as if there was no other choice? Weird.
Hmm and I wonder how they ended up surrounded by enemies...
This isn't hard folks. If you just decide to open up your eyes.
The US just pulled troops out, and the Taliban moved in.
If the choice is between imperialism from the west or the kind of chaos that comes from fundamentalist self rule, maybe imperialism is the correct response.
Let's not pretend the Arab world is a paradise. It is a world just as bloodthirsty, ambitious, and dangerous to the rest of the world as anyone else. At least the west, in addition to being better at conquest, also allows women to vote and refuses to massacre dissidents who state an opinion.
Originally posted by cdtmSaid every imperialist country that was bringing 'civility' to the 'savages'If the choice is between imperialism from the west or the kind of chaos that comes from fundamentalist self rule, maybe imperialism is the correct response.
And honestly I'm not even sure what exactly is being talked about here but I figured that was worth adding in for historical context of that type of statement.
Originally posted by cdtm
The US just pulled troops out, and the Taliban moved in.
Who ruled in the first place. What's your point?
Originally posted by cdtm
If the choice is between imperialism from the west or the kind of chaos that comes from fundamentalist self rule, maybe imperialism is the correct response.
It's really none of your business what happens in that part of the world.
Originally posted by cdtm
Let's not pretend the Arab world is a paradise. It is a world just as bloodthirsty, ambitious, and dangerous to the rest of the world as anyone else. At least the west, in addition to being better at conquest, also allows women to vote and refuses to massacre dissidents who state an opinion.
And yet when they have money you're happy doing business with them... ergo arming Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen. Or arming Saddam Hussain to bomb Iran.
There's no moral authority here at all, and the more you try to make one, the more dickish you come across. Either dickish or ignorant of the reality. Take your pick.
Originally posted by Newjak
Said every imperialist country that was bringing 'civility' to the 'savages'
Exactumondo 👆
Originally posted by Newjak
And honestly I'm not even sure what exactly is being talked about here but I figured that was worth adding in for historical context of that type of statement.
Well American Imperialism is very relevant to the topic at hand. Which of course cdtm and ethneo are attempting to justify. Their main argument being "arabs/muslims are savages. So it's best just to invade/rule over them"
Originally posted by NewjakThe past is full of shame but tomorrow's fair game. Good Morning Britain.
Said every imperialist country that was bringing 'civility' to the 'savages'And honestly I'm not even sure what exactly is being talked about here but I figured that was worth adding in for historical context of that type of statement.