Homelander vs. Iron Man

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Iron Man fought Thor, just throwing that out there.

I'm not confident Homelander could give Thor any type of fight, so through power scaling, he wins.

Also, made Thanos bleed with a punch.

Arguing that Homelander could HURT Iron Man is a big assumption (a wrong one.)

Making Thanos SLIGHTLY bleed (after many attacks) isnt a good showing for IM, its a bad one for Thanos.

IM isn't aircraft bullet proof. Homelander is (if you go by the statement). IM can not survive a nuke. IM suit can not resist greats amount of heat. The heat homelander can generate is greater than the heat Extremis agents can generate (i have evidence if you want it).

IM weaponry is not more powerful than the world's best. How would IM harm him?

Now if you argue that statements that contradict on scene showings can not be used as proof then ill agree and say this isnt a stomp for Homelander.

Originally posted by McNasty996
He's probably referencing the fact that the Giant Hunk of moon hurled at Iron Man which hit him and collided him into the ground had ridiculous KE and the fact he was blocking sustained Power Stone blasts sets a high bar that Homelander and anyone supporting him needs to prove that he can overcome that much output.

That's an extremely impressive feat and I honestly had forgotten Tony survived that, but that wasn't "Tsar Bomba" levels of power output, not even close.

Going from what is shown in The Boys, HL doesn't stand a chance. I'm just playing devil's advocate based on his implied level of power, which were 'he can survive being nuked'.

Originally posted by h1a8
IM suit can not resist greats amount of heat. The heat homelander can generate is greater than the heat Extremis agents can generate (i have evidence if you want it).

This is your only good point. So stick to it and present your evidences.

Those were the suits in IM3, we're talking massive leaps and bounds of advancement with the suit Tony is wearing here.

Oh yeah keep forgetting the details of that sucky film.

Originally posted by McNasty996
He's probably referencing the fact that the Giant Hunk of moon hurled at Iron Man which hit him and collided him into the ground had ridiculous KE and the fact he was blocking sustained Power Stone blasts sets a high bar that Homelander and anyone supporting him needs to prove that he can overcome that much output.

They turned the suits into comical relief, which was just weird.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those were the suits in IM3, we're talking massive leaps and bounds of advancement with the suit Tony is wearing here.

Originally posted by h1a8
We require proof that they are more resistant against heat (or any type of damage tbh) than IM 3 suits. Otherwise we have speculation.

That would be the ever increasing feats in the subsequent films after IM3, you silly troll. You're done here.

Originally posted by Robtard
They turned the suits into comical relief, which was just weird.

Tony was just making them to make them and so the fans could get a nod to Armor Wars. By mass producing them they lost the integrity and power of the individual suits he put time and actual effort into.

Tony not sleeping and making suit after suit is one explanation

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor didn't seem as powerful as homelander when he fought IM. I could list some things that make me come to that conclusion if you want.

Making Thanos SLIGHTLY bleed (after many attacks) isnt a good showing for IM, its a bad one for Thanos.

IM isn't aircraft bullet proof. Homelander is (if you go by the statement). IM can not survive a nuke. IM suit can not resist greats amount of heat. The heat homelander can generate is greater than the heat Extremis agents can generate (i have evidence if you want it).

IM weaponry is not more powerful than the world's best. How would IM harm him?

Now if you argue that statements that contradict on scene showings can not be used as proof then ill agree and say this isnt a stomp for Homelander.

Unless you're forgetting he also fought the HULK in the same movie and did pretty damn well, and arguing Homelander would perform similarly against the Hulk is just stupid.

You could even argue IM performed better then almost every single fight Thor had against him.

Bad showing or not, it still happened, Iron Man managed to make Thanos bleed with a PUNCH. Normal functioning humans could not possibly argue Homelander could tank that. The dude is strong, he can tear humans in half with a twitch of a finger, and that's great. He can tank a nuke, and that's great, but these things aren't impressive in the MCU for a metahuman.

Originally posted by h1a8
IM weaponry is not more powerful than the world's best. How would IM harm him?

Judging by this and your Supergirl post, you know count statements as facts?

Originally posted by Robtard
That would be the ever increasing feats in the subsequent films after IM3, you silly troll. You're done here.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Stop it. Thor in Avengers 1 would crush Homelander's skull with one hand.

Unless you're forgetting he also fought the HULK in the same movie and did pretty damn well, and arguing Homelander would perform similarly against the Hulk is just stupid.

You could even argue IM performed better then almost every single fight Thor had against him.

Bad showing or not, it still happened, Iron Man managed to make Thanos bleed with a PUNCH. Normal functioning humans could not possibly argue Homelander could tank that. The dude is strong, he can tear humans in half with a twitch of a finger, and that's great. He can tank a nuke, and that's great, but these things aren't impressive in the MCU for a metahuman.

IM making Thanos bleed slightly is not a good feat for IM, its a bad one for Thanos.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's an extremely impressive feat and I honestly had forgotten Tony survived that, but that wasn't "Tsar Bomba" levels of power output, not even close.

Going from what is shown in The Boys, HL doesn't stand a chance. I'm just playing devil's advocate based on his implied level of power, which were 'he can survive being nuked'.

Understandable, I'm not going to argue it was and I'm not am armchair physicist so not going to attempt to calc it was just pointing out something he referenced though but you get what I was aiming at.

Regarding the use of Homelander in general I think that's the issue with using him in any versus setting. By scaling he everyone else +++ but we don't know where exactly that level is and he's never had to fight someone on his level so we never get him putting in any effort to get a judge of where he sits.

Also doesn't help that he's the "Superman" archetype so we tend to prescribe a level of what Superman can do(plus the Madelyns comment doesn't help) despite the fact that he doesn't have a single feat putting him anywhere near there.

Originally posted by McNasty996
Understandable, I'm not going to argue it was and I'm not am armchair physicist so not going to attempt to calc it was just pointing out something he referenced though but you get what I was aiming at.

Regarding the use of Homelander in general I think that's the issue with using him in any versus setting. By scaling he everyone else +++ but we don't know where exactly that level is and he's never had to fight someone on his level so we never get him putting in any effort to get a judge of where he sits.

Also doesn't help that he's the "Superman" archetype so we tend to prescribe a level of what Superman can do(plus the Madelyns comment doesn't help) despite the fact that he doesn't have a single feat putting him anywhere near there.

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He's a deplorable, but lovable prick; that goes a long way. Speaking of, we should get the Season 3 release date soon.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters fluctuate in power level from scene to scene. Thats why we get inconsistency. I can name some if you like.

Nice excuse to ignore on screen showings and follow your own head canon instead.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nice excuse to ignore on screen showings and follow your own head canon instead.

Homelander was knocked out by a bus landing on his head. The nuke extrapolation is total BS when that is kept in mind.