Originally posted by h1a8And that's fine but ignoring an on-screen because "characters fluctuate", is stupid.
What i said was a fact. Characters fluctuate from scene to scene. Writers do not use exact science to determine when something written is contradictory to wgat a character has already done.
Also, I'm not sure if I agree with a nuke being more powerful than what IM got hit by.
I could maybe buy the tsar bomba being more powerful but it's highly unlikely that's what Homelander got hit with during his "tests".
Although to be honest I doubt he was hit with a nuke in the first place, I doubt the military even in that world would authorize a nuke test just to "test out a superheroes' durability", especially considering the likelihood of wiping out one of their most valuable assets.
I'd argue he was mostly hit with heavy artillery, tanks, sniper rifles, and maybe jet missiles.
Originally posted by JmanghanThey said nothing stopped him. Its why the world is so scared of him. It can't stop him Jman.
Also, I'm not sure if I agree with a nuke being more powerful than what IM got hit by.I could maybe buy the tsar bomba being more powerful but it's highly unlikely that's what Homelander got hit with during his "tests".
Although to be honest I doubt he was hit with a nuke in the first place, I doubt the military even in that world would authorize a nuke test just to "test out a superheroes' durability", especially considering the likelihood of wiping out one of their most valuable assets.
I'd argue he was mostly hit with heavy artillery, tanks, sniper rifles, and maybe jet missiles.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
can't remember the exact line but the implication wasn't he ran. It was he took everything they had.
Well Forum rules are actually for on screen feats. And not so much implications. And if there's wiggle room in the statement, then that would count even less for the purposes of the versus thread.
And I personally see Homelander winning btw. Between his speed and heat vision we don't even need to know the full extent of his strength and durability to make the case for him winning.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThis is true. 👆
Well Forum rules are actually for on screen feats. And not so much implications. And if there's wiggle room in the statement, then that would count even less for the purposes of the versus thread.And I personally see Homelander winning btw. Between his speed and heat vision we don't even need to know the full extent of his strength and durability to make the case for him winning.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well Forum rules are actually for on screen feats. And not so much implications. And if there's wiggle room in the statement, then that would count even less for the purposes of the versus thread.And I personally see Homelander winning btw. Between his speed and heat vision we don't even need to know the full extent of his strength and durability to make the case for him winning.
That's pretty fast. Seems to be far faster than Tony.
Originally posted by Stigma
Regarding Homelander's speed, one of his most impressive feats for me is when he grabs Butcher amidst the explosion and somehow carries him out unscathed. We can see Butcher triggering the bomb and the explosion already starting to go off.That's pretty fast. Seems to be far faster than Tony.
Butcher's hair wasn't even singed, yeah? That's speed so fast he would appear to be teleporting from the human eye perspective.
I've forgotten a lot of The Boys, might have to watch S1&2 again before 3 comes out.
Originally posted by Robtard
Butcher's hair wasn't even singed, yeah? That's speed so fast he would appear to be teleporting from the human eye perspective.I've forgotten a lot of The Boys, might have to watch S1&2 again before 3 comes out.
Yeah, looking forward to season 3 as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
Characters fluctuate in power level from scene to scene. Thats why we get inconsistency. I can name some if you like.
Also
Fighting someone doesn't prove strength. Its what you actually do in the fight that is considered a strength feat. Homelander would do similarly or better than Thor in that scene.IM making Thanos bleed slightly is not a good feat for IM, its a bad one for Thanos.
Bingo! 👆
Homelander:
+ extremely fast
+ heat vision
+ some degree of substantial super strength
- no fighting prowess to speak of
- taken out of commission by the falling bus, something that Tony would handle with just as much, if not less, difficulty.
Iron Man:
+ Has like 12 films of feats to pull from
+ Has fought opponents that would pummel Homelander (Thor and Thanos namely)
+ Has shrugged off massive amounts of damage, if not been unaffected entirely (Sokovia explosion, getting caught in the SHIELD helicarrier turbine blades, having a chunk of a moon dropped on him, power stone arc, etc.)
+ Has regenerating armor
+ Numerous offensive options built into his bleeding edge armor
- Always goes in for H2H combat instead of keeping his distance (think Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian fight in NYC and Thanos fight on Titan in IW)
- I don't think he has outright won a fight against an opponent since Iron Man 3 or Age of Ultron, and anytime he punches above his weight class or goes against an exotic powerset (Cull Obsidian, Thanos, Ebony Maw), he gets rescued at the last moment or wins via environment
- no answer for HL's speed
- likes to tank stuff and then fight his opponent, which could prove fatal against HL's heat vision
I go with Homelander, but I can see Iron Man winning. The main issue is one we've only seen touched on: if Homelander were to fight an equal Superman-type opponent, I think he would get stomped.
Spoiler:
For reference, when Homelander faced his Black Noir clone in the comics, he gets killed quickly.